5 Conversational Derailments
We don’t do conversations. That suggests that it is an equal process where we listen to you and your opinion is respected and deemed as valid. During seduction our conversations are both information gathering exercises and monologues which are there to showcase our brilliance. Once we devalue you, our conversations with you are tirades, imperious and haughty speeches, vicious diatribes against you where we speak and you had better damn well listen. All conversations must be controlled by us. Our need for control is considerable because if we every allow you to hold centre stage then we are losing out. We risk losing fuel, we are allowing our innate superiority to be undermined and we are ceding control to you. This is why we must never allow you to think or even achieve some kind of dominance, even if slight, during a conversation over us. The conversation is a mechanism for our use, not yours. It is for us to shine, to avoid blame, to lash out at you, to hoover you back in and enable us to achieve what we want. It is our conduit and you just happen to be involved but on the receiving end. Achieving such domination and control of the conversational arena is absolutely necessary and to maintain such a position we engage in numerous manipulations. There are many which are deployed and here are five of the most popular ways we will derail a conversation for the purposes of maintaining or seizing control.
- The Blame Shift
If you are trying to accuse us of something or pin the blame on us in the course of a conversation this is against our rules. We will not allow this to happen. We are unaccountable and especially so to somebody like you. If you can hold us to account through a conversation, then this reduces our superiority and allows you control. In order to prevent you from achieving this will engage in a blame shift. Whatever you are accusing us of will be your fault. It does not matter if there is no logical link (in your world) between what you have accused us of and our response. These conversations are not governed by your logic but by ours. Our logic is that we must maintain control and therefore shifting the blame on to you, by any means, is a logical method of achieving this. There is the logic for you. Understand this and you begin to understand why we act as we do. Accordingly, you might accuse us of the following and be met with the response in bold.
“You have been seeing another woman, I can smell her perfume on you.”
“I’m not having an affair but if I was who would blame me? You never show me any attention or affection. You cannot smell perfume; you are just making that up.”
“Why haven’t you remembered to switch the oven on?”
“Why do I have to remember to do that? It is your job. If you spent more time getting on with what you are supposed to do, rather than trying to pick fault with me, this wouldn’t happen.”
“Why are you always trying to tell me what to do?”
“I don’t do that. You are over-reacting. I just suggest things for you because let’s face it, you aren’t really capable of making the big decisions yourself are you? That’s not me being horrible, that’s a fact, you are poor at decision-making. You should thank me for helping you.”
This favourite method of derailing the conversation is so effective because it takes your breath away. By accusing you of doing the very thing that we are accused of (and invariably we are doing) you are so astonished at our bare-faced cheek, our audacity and our brass neck, that you lose sight of what you are talking about and end up focusing on the counter-allegation that we have just flung at you. You hate being thought of in an incorrect manner and because we project with such conviction, you are immediately drawn into engaging us on this point. You will fail to press on with your accusation against us and instead be side-tracked into discussing your own behaviour in a fruitless effort to try and persuade us that you have not done any of the things that we accused you of. You let your emotional response to such allegations take hold of you and this is entirely deliberate. Expect to hear comments such as these: –
“If you didn’t drink so much, you might begin to realise just how horrible you can be, but you can never remember because of your drinking.”
“You always take the last can of soda without replacing it. It is so selfish.”
“Me flirt? Have you seen the way you go on around Harry? Only last week you were all over him like a rash. It just wasn’t me that saw it and commented on it either.”
“You never turn up on time. I find it disrespectful.”
“You spend too much time thinking about your work and not enough concentrating on our children.”
You will not be able to finish what you are saying because of our repeated tendency and need to interrupt you. We do not consider anything that you have to say as having any value. You are inferior to us therefore anything which comes out of your mouth must be inferior too. We do not recognise or respect boundaries and therefore we regard it as perfectly acceptable to talk over you and interrupt what you are saying. Our sense of entitlement means that we are always to be heard and if this means cutting across you, so be it. This can reach even childish extremes where we will say one word so you stop and then we stop. You try to speak again and we repeat the trick. We keep doing it, halting you from speaking until you continue talking and we speak over you or you storm off in frustration. You can expect to hear phrases such as these: –
“If you would just let me speak.”
“If I can get a word in edgeways.”
“Why don’t you listen for a change?”
“This is important.”
“I want to have my say for once.”
“If you actually listened you might understand.”
“No that’s wrong.”
“No, you are making this up.”
“I have to stop you there.”
- Topic Shift
We love to deflect and distract. We also exhibit a considerable capacity for moving the conversation away from what you want to talk about and thus have control, onto something we want to talk about. It might be espousing our virtues of having a go at you instead, but we will hijack the conversation and wrench it over to our preferred topic. You must not protest for if you do you will be accused of trying to monopolise the discussion and failing to listen to us. We are brilliant at talking about ourselves or finding some topic which we can take round and round and round as you feel yourself falling into a stupor. We rely on your innate empathic nature of politeness, good manners and being a good listener so we can abuse this and prevent you talking about something which matters to you. Nobody is interested in what you have to say. Expect shift comments such as these: –
“That’s all very interesting but let me tell you about….”
“That’s not important right now, but this is….”
“That is irrelevant, now let me tell you..”
“Oh I must tell you this, it is hilarious….”
“I have to tell you this before I forget….”
- Silent Treatment
The old favourite. If we do not like the way, the conversation is going then we will either walk off or sit in silence. This is often done when there is a conversation going on in a group setting as well where we are failing to dominate the discussion. We want to bring it back to us and therefore by sitting silent and sulking we hope to engender some sympathetic reaction that causes someone to comment on our silence or invite us to speak. When done in a one-on-one situation this is designed to ignore what you have to say, treat it as unimportant and make you feel uncomfortable. You will be forced to ask us what is wrong and then chase after us as we remain sullen and silent. Your comments are forgotten as the spotlight returns to us again and the conversation has been successfully derailed.
7 thoughts on “5 Conversational Derailments”
Yep, very accurate. Have experienced pretty much all of this. Particularly blame shifting and projection. Probably his 2 favs. So you absolutely think he knows he’s doing this? Not just brain damage from the drugs and booze and childhood trauma? I am not always sure he really knows, I guess
If you want to understand his level of awareness as to what he is doing and whether he knows why he is doing it, I recommend you arrange a consultation with me so I can explain it to you.
Watch your spelling HG….. under #3 “Interruption’.
QUOTE: “You are inferior to us, therefore everything that comes out of your mouth must be inferior —>> too.”
English is not even my first language.
It’s not even my second.
Therefore, you are inferior to me.
Teasing of course. I just wanted to know what it felt like to momentarily posture like a narc, point out your error and then try to feel ”superior” because of a typo. Still not very satisfying.
In order for you to be “superior”, there would first need to be a reason WHY.
And, in your case ….. there is definitely no reason.
There are over 16 million reasons why. Have a pleasant day.
I remember my mother brought a computer this is about 20 years ago and my brother took one of the expensive cds I think it was windows mum wasn’t computer literate so she did not know what was there any way her husband accused him of taking it which of course he denied but when my mother told me what happened I knew he had taken it he went through the cds with her and made her count them before and after so that he would be able to deny it and get her on side then he rang me going off at the fact that her husband had accused him of taking it the first thing I said was did you take it and he admitted that he had but was still very upset about being accused without proof I actually cannot believe what I was hearing how his mind works and that he had no concerns about me knowing the truth I was very aware of what he was by this time and in the process of getting him out of my life he knew I was a real truth seeker and can’t respect someone who lies as a matter of fact it’s the perfect way to lose me now my mother is a narcissist as well as him why would she be so gullible to him ??
If ever I was trying to make a point to resolve an issue, instead of just conceding (heaven forbid) and saying he sees my point and apologizing (ha!), he’d make me go in circles trying to get somewhere and eventually he’d say I’d made a big deal out of nothing. When in fact it was he who’d made it get to that point by being an always-right, hard-headed, stubborn motherflower.
Glad to know that I wasnt crazy hg but that is exactly what happens I have had people do that before very manipulative