Hush. I don’t want you to make any sound. None at all. If you do you will spoil this moment. This is not a time for noise, of any kind. Yes, I admit I normally like you to be making some sound. Whether it is your words of admiration, your scream of terror, your murmurs of delight, your shouted anger or moans of passion.

All the noises which you make for me are welcomed, so long as you coat them with your feelings. I do not care for bare comment, neutral and anodyne, that does nothing for me and may even harm me, but you won’t do that for me will you? You do not want to hurt me, ever, do you? You are not like that.

Your kind are not like that, you care and you love and you give. No, no, stay silent. You have no need to speak. Just lie there. Be still. I want to allow my eyes to roam over your naked form as you lie there next to me, exposed, vulnerable. I know you are looking at my eyes, I can sense it. My gaze is not meeting yours at the moment though as I am allowing my eyes to slowly move across you.

I regard your toes, pointing upwards, bare and free of varnish. You rarely apply such gloss to them but you do ensure they are clean, cut and presentable. I know you can see me looking at them. I know you are wondering whether I am going to lower my wonderful mouth to them and suck them or bite them. I am not going to do either of those things but you are uncertain.

I can tell that you are because your apprehension is flowing from you and I am drinking that in. That tiny shudder you just gave was not from the cool air that permeates this twilight space. No, that was indicative of the apprehension which has taken hold of you. I know you are stood at a fork in your mind. I know what you will be thinking. I know because I make you think this way, why else would I do it? I do it for control. I control everything about you.

You stand at that fork wondering whether I will lead you down the line to explosive pleasure or down the dark road towards hurt and pain. You have no idea which it will be because as you have come to learn these last few months, I am capable of both. Should you feel excited? Should you feel nervous? Which is to be? Hush now, do not speak. Oh I know that you want to speak, you cannot help yourself. You want to ask. Always the questioning isn’t it?

Ask, question, query, challenge and so forth. Not now. You want the answer but you are not getting that answer. Not yet. I make a gentle shushing sound. Is it a noise of reassurance, that which the doting mother provides to the new born offspring or is the noise of patronising chastisement, treating you like a child? You do not know. How I revel in your confusion.

I know you are looking at my face desperately looking for some kind of clue, some hint, some acknowledgement of what is going on in my delinquent mind. You are denied. My face is frozen, mouth set straight, brow neither raised or furrowed, eyebrows unyielding and then there are my eyes. You cannot see yourself anymore in them. I have stopped that for the time being.

Usually you get to see exactly what you want to see in them. Whether it is joy, hope, love, passion, excitement, intrigue and so much more. You are only seeing what I know you want to see because I reflect from these eyes what is showing in your eyes. You do not look upon me.

You look upon yourself. That has changed tonight. Now two impenetrable black orbs are all that you can see. The place where you usually lose yourself has become lost to you. You will find no succour for you there. You will find no reassurance or indication of what is about to happen. That is hidden from you now.

You make to issue a further sound and a shake of my head halts you. My fingers trace the red weal on your thigh, the pads of two of my fingers running either side of this mark. Another shudder and I can sense you are desperate to speak buy hush my dear, hush my love, this is not the time for speaking. I know you will wonder why my fingers trace this mark.

Am I soothing you or reflecting on its origin? You have no idea have you? I allow my fingers to move upwards across the tender flesh of your thigh. Is it now that it will happen or will I wait? You lift your left thigh in anticipation and I continue to allow my fingers to drift northwards. I hear your intake of breath and know that again you are making so as to speak.

My hand leaves your thigh and I place one finger against your lips. The gesture clear and unmistakable. The moment where you might have broken the silence passes and I wait and wait a while longer before I move my finger away. Your body beside me is ramrod straight as you are unable to relax, every nerve-ending alert and bracing itself for whatever comes next, whatever that might be.

The outside of my hand brushes your soft cheek, your impressive complexion noticeable even in this half-light. A cheek that sometimes glows red from the consequences of my endeavours. Is it the glow of shame which will coat your cheek? Is it the surge of a passionate flush that will linger there? Or something else?

Now I look at your eyes and this is when I begin to derive the true benefit from this enforced silence. My eyes convey nothing. Yours tell me everything. They flit back and forth, scrutinising my face for some kind of signal, some kind of sign.

I am not transmitting. I am only set to receive and receive I do as I drink in the earnest anxiety flooding from your eyes. I see the attempt to mollify me as you allow those beautiful, expressive eyes to reach out to me. I see the look of apprehension cut through the attempt as the nervousness returns.

You are obedient now. Remaining silent, my repeated exhortations, soft and low, for you to remain silent have been heeded. Now you are trying to speak to me using your eyes and you are doing so magnificently. The lack of noise, the absence of speech, now makes the emotions in your eyes a hundred times more intense. I absorb those feelings which flood from your eyes.

I drink them in, consuming them for my own benefit. This is why it works so well. Complete control of you as you lie there, still, unmoving on the bed, slight and occasional tremble from your limbs as you wait in conflicting anticipation for what may come. What will it be this time? How will I deal with you? There can be no spoken protestation, no elucidated request for confirmation, only this continuing silence, punctuated from time to time by my hushing you.

My eyes remain locked on yours as my left hand once again begins to glide about your body. The lightest of touches which glides from throat, to breast and to stomach. Back and forth moves my hand, like some wizard commencing the gesticulations for his spell-casting. My spell is already working as you remain frozen, barely daring to move, only allowing your chest to rise with your breathing and your eyes to dart left and right, still probing, still seeking those answers.

Hush my darling, hush my dear, hush my love.

My hand rises and then clamps over your mouth.

Your eyes widen. Fear and excitement fighting against one another and all the while giving me what I need.



Who’s the Daddy?


107 thoughts on “Hush

  1. A Victor says:

    There was a time I would’ve considered this very erotic. After studying narcissism for a couple of months, not so much.

    1. Asp Emp says:

      It’ll come back. One day. And you will realise that when your ET is low and LT back to better than it was before……..

      1. A Victor says:

        Well, now it would have to be with a person I knew I could trust not to go the bad route. And would that make it as erotic? Who knows. But, I will hold out hope that you are correct. Thank you!

        1. Asp Emp says:

          Believe me, I am correct……

    2. Witch says:

      I would have to breach this silence with a boisterous fart!

      1. A Victor says:

        Hahaha!! I wonder what the narcissist would do??

        1. NarcAngel says:

          What would the narcissist do if she farted?

          Not go down in her I’m guessing.

          1. Truthseeker6157 says:


          2. Witch says:

            Woah woah now!
            Give it a minute to air out and we are good to go… well that’s if the narc in question isn’t a middle Mid-Ranger wet blanket

          3. A Victor says:

            NA, well, that’s one possibility. From this scenario I would be more concerned with more vicious things were she to do that.

          4. Witch says:

            @A victor
            Am I in devaluation during this scenario?
            Depending on the day a lesser might laugh or hit me. A Mid-Ranger might laugh or storm out of the room and slam the door like a bitch.
            And I don’t know what a greater would do ?
            If it’s the golden period probably say some cringe shit like “it’s so great that you feel comfortable enough to be this open with me” ….tbh they all say cringe shit during the golden period like dude just stfu and suck the clit!

          5. A Victor says:

            @witch, hahaha, you made me laugh again! Thank you! And thank you for the explanation of what they might do! This thread def took a humorous turn!!

      2. Asp Emp says:

        Is it because this thread of the conversation stopped two days ago??

        1. A Victor says:

          Haha, that’s funny..

          1. Alexissmith2016 says:

            A Victor, replying here as I couldn’t below. Ooh I realise what I said re hope may have been misinterpreted. What I meant when I said ‘there is hope despite what HG says’ is becsuee HG Just says ‘hope’ is a bad word. Essentially you should be in charge of your own destiny ans not hope. So it was a little inside joke really becsuee I love the word hope.

            He certainly doesn’t mean there’s no chance of a successful relationship becsuee he has always advocated that you need to recognise the red flags and that you can have a successful relationship with a non narc.

            So don’t worry at all and hope away xx

          2. A Victor says:

            Alexissmith2016, ok, I feel better. I can see where hope can be dangerous, slowing progress possibly, that makes sense. And I should probably put it away for a while at least. But I hope, haha, someday to be able to have it again. Thank you for explaining!

      3. Alexissmith2016 says:

        You’re right witch I agree ans understand why empaths cheat too. And no we should never be forgiving of any Narc, no matter who they are.

  2. Eternity says:

    Yes, I agree they were both interesting characters. He was definitely a Narcissist. She was the victim clearly and was going through issues with self harming herself.

    1. Asp Emp says:

      She was a ‘victim’ & self harming before she met him. He had his own issues before he met her – he couldn’t retain his previous employees. Maybe they ‘saved’ each other to a degree.

      1. Eternity says:

        Yes, they were definitely a match made in heaven she won him over in the end, with letting him control her left right and centre.

        1. Asp Emp says:

          Oh, she did, did she? I think I’ll go make some coffee……

          1. Eternity says:

            Same here, places to go ,people to meet. Have a great day !

        2. Violetta says:

          Except she was stubborn. She refused to leave that desk. He figured she’d give up eventually, but she wouldn’t, even to go to the bathroom.

          1. Asp Emp says:

            She was trying to prove a point! At least it wasn’t on the carpet, otherwise there would have been an order of 2,000 red pens……

          2. Eternity says:

            Totally, she had major issues and showed that she would do everything for him. He told her not to move from the desk and she didnt move an inch.

          3. Another Cat says:


            “Ever read Crime and Punishment? The main character desperately tries to be a sociopath and fails miserably.”

            Bl interesting. Was a teenager when reading Crime and Punishment but for some reason often think of it when reading HG’s work. Something about what you say here. He thought he was very unusual but he was a Normal, something like that. There was a long philosophical reasoning about ppl who think they are normal, but actually they are Odd, too.
            The novel creeped me out with its high quality.

  3. Asp Emp says:

    Secretary. Worm. Red pen.

    1. Eternity says:

      Great movie!

      1. Asp Emp says:

        Yes it is. It’s interesting to now see it in a slightly different way as both characters play people who are ‘victims’ of past in one way or another. I loved the way she did the worm ‘incident’ – the slow folding of the paper then licking the envelope with slow & determined ‘attitude’ and the way she sealed it – I’m laughing cos I could relate to that!

      2. njfilly says:

        I loved that movie and I totally relate to the secretary, but I never understood why they each wanted what they wanted. Now I understand.

        I think I’ll watch it again this weekend.

        1. Eternity says:

          I am watching it tonight too with a bunch of friends. My friend invited me over and there is this hot guy sitting near me. I keep analyzing him if he is a Narcissist ha ha. I will see how he reacts to the movie I guess. He keeps smiling at me and I cant stop smiling back.

          1. njfilly says:


            Sounds like this could be an interesting evening! Did you watch the movie again? I did! What happened with the hot guy?

          2. Eternity says:

            Hi njfilly,
            Yes, we watched the movie with my friends since they never seen it and I recommended it. Nothing really happened with the hot guy. I found out he actually has a girlfriend so I didnt pursue him. Too bad !

          3. njfilly says:

            Too bad.

          4. Eternity says:

            Thats ok ! Plenty of fish in the sea !

          5. njfilly says:

            True. Easy come, easy go.

          6. Eternity says:

            Exactly , plus I am pretty sure he was a Narcissist. He was good to look at though ,but nothing more. I don’t want another relationship with one anyways I just got rid of one.

          7. njfilly says:

            What made you think he was a narcissist? I don’t think I know enough to be able to spot one so quickly.

          8. Eternity says:

            Hi njfilly,
            I honestly had a gut feeling in the pit of my stomach . Plus it was to goodnight to be true. I always seem to attract Narcissists everywhere I go. I am not that lucky to find a non Narcissist. Plus he had a girlfriend and was flirting so bad sign right there .

          9. njfilly says:


            Maybe I should learn how to spot them since I am dating again.

            Was the girlfriend present? If she was not there, do you consider flirting while in a relationship bad behavior?

          10. Eternity says:


            Ha ha we do learn how to stop them from HG

            No the girlfriend wasn’t present but he was talking about her after when someone asked him if he is dating.

            Innocent flirting can be harmless i guess.

            Good luck with dating

          11. njfilly says:

            I stopped wanting to learn anymore about narcissists. Maybe I should continue to at least learn how to spot one easier.

            Thanks. I will need the luck.

          12. Eternity says:

            Njfilly , how do you feel about flirting while in a relationship?
            Do you yourself consider it bad behaviour? I am interested to see your views on this .

          13. njfilly says:


            I think my opinion is that done in moderation it is harmless, natural, healthy, and even helpful in some ways. Like most things, it can be taken to the extreme or done in harmful ways.

            I don’t want it taken to the extreme in front of me.

          14. Eternity says:

            I totally agree with you on that one. Thank you for expressing your opinon.

          15. alexissmith2016 says:

            Eternity, I know you’re question was directed to nj but I couldn’t resist answering.

            I’ve been married to my husband for a number of years now. I’m a horrendous flirt, he’s pretty bad himself. I think it’s largely healthy when in a ‘normal’ relationship. We don’t do it to make the other jealous and I feel absolutely no jealousy when he flirts at all, nor him me. He rather likes it too! But when with an N and they do it, it doesn’t even have to be flirting, simply any form of triangulation is incredibly painful whether its another woman, car or dog! Something normal/empathic people simply do not make you feel.

          16. Eternity says:

            Hi alexissmith,

            I totally agree when you are in a healthy relationship it can be normal up until a certain degree.
            Being married to a Narcissist he would constantly flirt with women around me without even realizing unconsciously as it became part of him, and I learned to accept it. Mine would do that all of the time and to top it off ignore me. Now if I would even talk to another man he would accuse me of flirting with him when I actually wasnt. Well that’s over.
            I appreciate your views and that’s why we are all here to express them.
            I am so happy for you because you are in a healthy relationship, perhaps there is some hope for the rest of us .

          17. alexissmith2016 says:

            I do feel incredibly fortunate Eternity. There is most definitely hope despite what HG says.

            Yes its not just the flirting it’s the other behaviours that accompany it, as you say the ignoring. It is soooooooooo hurtful.

            I was chatting with a friend of mine the other night, we both worked out we were dealing with a narc in our life around the same time. This is some six or seven years ago for me now. And we both agreed the single most important thing we have learned is that is them and not us. When you can explain away their behaviour, as ‘their behaviour’ it reduces the hurt you experience from it to dust.

            We may flirt with others, but we are supportive of each other, we do not put each other down, all of our goals are shared instead of working against one another. Of course we have disagreements but we work them out together and as long as I win…I’m kidding. It’s give and take. You can find someone who loves you and treats you well.
            A narc is always against you, always. You are their to serve their purposes and that’s it. And I’m not serving anyone’s purpose, unless it suits me to do so.

            Just keep learning and keep that ET as low as you can.

          18. Eternity says:

            Thank you so much you are making so much sense. That is what a normal healthy realtionship should look like.

          19. alexissmith2016 says:

            Don’t give up hope. I have a very dear friend who has been in one N relationship after another. She kept using dating sites to try and find someone?? She was trying to find someone for a good two years and felt like it would never happen. But now she has met someone and they will be spending their first Christmas together. You can ans will find someone too. You know the red flags ans listen to your gut x

          20. Eternity says:

            Alexissmith, thank you,no I will never give up hope. I am actually not looking right now because I just got out of a long term relationship and I need to be by myself for awhile . When the time is right it would be nice to find someone to spend time with and have fun. Who knows what the future holds.
            I am so happy for your friend that is defintely a nice Christmas present.
            Yes, I know the red flags. I always follow my guy instinct.
            Take care and stay safe xoxo

          21. Witch says:

            Narcs make everything 100% worse
            Even if my gf cheated on me I would probably forgive her tbh. I think I’ve reached that level of maturity where I can understand why an empath would cheat.
            I wouldn’t be so generous with a narc

          22. Another Cat says:


            “Even if my gf cheated on me I would probably forgive her tbh. I think I’ve reached that level of maturity where I can understand why an empath would cheat.”

            This is wise, feels like you levelled up somehow due to long NC. You’re probably high on LT. Understanding and forgiving nonnarcs doesn’t cost much I realize.

          23. A Victor says:


            “There is most definitely hope despite what HG says.”

            This has me worried. What does HG say? I thought I was here to learn and improve…that is hope-giving??

      3. Another Cat says:

        Truthseeker wrote

        “( I ran 6.5k this morning, furthest I’ve been)”

        Cheers to you Truthseeker!

        1. Truthseeker6157 says:

          Another Cat,

          Awww, thank you for the cheer, really appreciate that xx

          1. Another Cat says:

            x I’m proud of your achievements especially these cold November days.

            Gah, need to get out today, at least a fast longwalk before zoom meeting. 👀

          2. Another Cat says:

            I read about the current state of your heel in another thread and I really hope you have the opportunity for some relaxing days for your foot! Benign selflove.

            Yes, I hope we can update on our exercise. After my work today it will be dark and cold, so I will concentrate not so much on running, but instead on what annoys me a bit….shoulder exercise.

          3. Truthseeker6157 says:

            Another Cat.

            Is it just me who thinks they are going to face plant when the do press ups?

            Yeah, weather here was wet and cold this week too so not the worst week I could have chosen to be laid up. Although I’m my own worst enemy. I still walked the dog each night and painted the hallway and landing this week. I’m not great this time of year so I have to keep moving no matter what. I swear Ralph ( the dog) knows. He dropped his pace, didn’t pull me even when he saw a rabbit, so we got round, even if it was at hobble pace.

            I used to do Zumba in the US. Had a great instructor, was more like being in a club with a bit of Latin thrown in. Never found anyone as good after her so switched to the gym. There’s a place close to me now that has itself set up as a club pretty much, dark, lights etc etc but it’s a workout place, water only. Might try that when it reopens. Mmmm I wonder if it has a podium….. Ha ha.

            Keep up the routine AC, it’s important, even when you don’t really feel like it. Xx

    2. A Victor says:

      Hm, I had not heard of this one before…I love James Spader! Not sure my heart is ready for it this weekend but I will look forward to it when it is!

      1. Asp Emp says:

        It is a good film. I think it may help you in some way to understand more about ‘relationships’ and narcissism. Yet the characters in this film are not necessarily narcissists. It’s the behaviours of both characters.

  4. Eternity says:

    It sounds like the victim should be giving the Silent Treatment.

    1. Asp Emp says:

      She is 😉😂

      1. Eternity says:

        Ha ha that’s what I thought too 😉

  5. December Infinity says:

    Bloody hell. The narcissist got lots of fuel from that little scenario. Does it really matter what happens next? Maybe nothing.

    1. Truthseeker6157 says:

      I’m going to take an educated guess and say this tale has a happy ending.

      1. Asp Emp says:

        It’s probably ‘red pen’ day (sniggering)

  6. Asp Emp says:

    Cold shower reading, it’s hot stuff…. empath is speechless….

    Q: how can she utter the ‘safe word’?

    1. Truthseeker6157 says:

      She goes cross eyed three times.

      Dare you to stay schmexy after that !

      1. Asp Emp says:

        Ah, bless you for that. 😂😂 He’d be blind by now with the length of my nails – knowing the possibility of the ‘dark triad’ they’re capable of – they’d get the fkg pliers out….. I’d be safer with a rubber chicken – even if the fkg useless rubber thing doesn’t have an insert for batteries 😂😂 Missed having you around TS xx

        1. Truthseeker6157 says:


          I just googled ‘dark triad’. It took me to Wikipedia. Apparently it’s quite difficult to measure! All three groups lie on the questionnaires! Ha ha! Well, bloody hell, who would have thought?!

          As far as the gaffer tape, there’s actually quite a lot you can say with your lips together.
          You just need to stick to single syllable words. 😉

          1. Asp Emp says:

            I came across the dark triad info last year – obviously my instincts were telling me something was not right – at work, my relationships, etc. I was not aware of KTN’s existence at the time. According to HG, the Greaters (and The Ultra – uhoh) can have the dark triad characteristics.

            I didn’t know gaffer tape was involved!! Anyway, there could be another reason why there is a “block” from being able to speak, ehem. Single syllable words – hmm, I’ll have to think about that & start listing them 😉😂

          2. Bubbles 🍾 says:

            Dearest Truthseeker 6157,
            Oh my goodness!!!!!
            My dearest friend’s son brags he ‘is’ the dark triad!
            Ex military, suffering PTSD, also a double degree psychologist!
            Breaks all the rules, breaks all boundaries ! Does what he wants !
            Hates women ! Disrespects his mum !
            I’ve had discussions with him, oh myyyyyy 😱
            Is he for real ?
            That’s what I want to know, or is it all show ?
            Luv Bubbles xx 😘

          3. Violetta says:


            Ever read Crime and Punishment? The main character desperately tries to be a sociopath and fails miserably. Alas, we have some control over what we do, but none over what we are.

          4. Truthseeker6157 says:

            Hello Bubbles

            Ha Ha, he IS the dark triad!
            There sounds like an element of showmanship is in play here also. A case of the actor becoming the role.

            I’m sure your friend is a lovely person, for a boy to disrespect his mother, I think that hits a whole new level of something being wrong.

            Boys and their mothers. It’s true, there’s just a bond there. Sam always looks at me with proud protective eyes. Even in the middle of a teenage rant, he remains respectful, forceful, but respectful.

            Unless there is real justification, HG and Matrinarc for example, there is something very wrong if a boy turns on his mother.
            Just my feeling on it, no psychology in my background at all.

            ( I ran 6.5k this morning, furthest I’ve been) 😉xx

          5. lickemtomorrow says:

            I took a ‘dark triad’ questionnaire earlier in the year at the insistence of my children who had done it also. Turns out I am 28% lighter than the rest of the population (which would makes sense if you did the quiz) and my kids didn’t believe me! They said I cheated 😛 I got an average score on psychopathy … that was weird. As if the general population are all potential borderline psychopaths!

          6. Truthseeker6157 says:


            Your average psychopathy score is probably down to the fact all the real psychopaths are cheating ha ha. They all fall into the ‘no, you are definitely not a psychopath’ category !

          7. lickemtomorrow says:

            Haha, TS, that might explain why my beautiful empath (middle) daughter scored high on the psychopathy scale 😉 She’s far from a psychopath as well, but maybe, just maybe, there’s a little of the psychopath in us all. True psychopathy would negate any type of empathy so there’s a big question mark in terms of how they create and rate these quizzes. I do thank you for the vote of confidence xox

          8. Bubbles 🍾 says:

            Dearest Truthseeker6157,
            I had an interesting discussion with him on narcissicm, which I think absolutely flawed him, as he didn’t think a “female” “my age” would know anything ! He appeared stunned ! Our conversation was left on pretty much equal footing, even though he was desperate to keep the lead …..Mr Tudor would’ve been proud haha
            He’s a huge risk taker, whilst at the same time enjoying shock value with his antics …..he loves the chase and he loves the kill
            He’s never had a girlfriend ! I agree, disrespecting your mother is one huge red flag !

            Can a person diagnose themselves as he has, to have all three, narcissicm, machiavellianism and psychopathy ? I do not believe he’s a greater, although I feel his ego allows him to think he is ….. haha
            Perhaps his “showmanship” camouflages other serious underlying issues

            Truth …..6.5ks 😱 You are rockin it …. you’ll be in marathons soon !
            So proud of you Truth ………. and don’t you feel absolutely amazing ?

            Luv Bubbles xx 😘

          9. Bubbles 🍾 says:

            Dearest Violetta,
            No, I haven’t read Crime and Punishment
            Sounds like another interesting one to add to my ever growing book list
            Like an empath trying to be a narcissist!
            Thank you Violetta
            Luv Bubbles xx 😘

          10. Bubbles 🍾 says:

            Dearest lickemtomorrow,
            I just did the quick BBC dark triad test !
            Results …… I’m shockingly saintly …… 🤣
            That was fun !
            Luv Bubbles xx 😘

          11. Asp Emp says:

            Hi Bubbles, I saw your comment RE: BBC Dark Triad test – out of curiosity, I decided to have a go…. I am not surprised at the result I got “moderately nefarious” – (wickedness – not criminal) I knew that anyway. I was laughing (inappropriately) at some of the “questions”.

          12. Asp Emp says:

            Ok. I am going to reveal one, just one of the questions as to where I was laughing (inappropriately) – at MYSELF….. the question was (or rather, a ‘statement’ !!) – “People say that you are out of control” (that set me off!). Of course, I ticked ‘YES’. I was and am being honest here. (sniggering)……

          13. Witch says:

            I got “infrequently vile – you often put others before yourself though you may find occasions when your dark side shines”
            I really can’t imagine most narcs would answer honestly. I wonder many have took the test and smiled at the results like “omg I’m such a nice person hehe”

          14. Truthseeker6157 says:


            Me too, infrequently vile.

            I got around 80% for Machiavellianism, about 40% for narcissism, about 25% for psychopathy.

            Knew I should have lied!

          15. Asp Emp says:

            Erm, well , if we are going to sharing scores – remember – this is a BBC ‘test’ – not HG’s TDC (which I have not taken as yet)…… my “results” were Machiavellianism = 75%; Narcissism = 60%; Psychopathy = 50%. I still believe I am an Empath and honestly, if I had not known about narcissism and had taken this BBC “test” – I would be freaking out by now….. having said that – the definition of ‘Machiavellianism’ was ‘cunning (yes), scheming (hmmm, dunno TBH); unscrupulous (hehehehe – damn right 😉 ) – especially in politics. Well, that explains it then. I am one of those that challenges a lot, questions a lot…… (don’t feel bad about it, Asp Emp, you are what you are) – think positive…..

          16. Violetta says:


            Text on-line free at Project Gutenberg.

          17. A Victor says:

            @witch hahahaha, I love your sense of humor!! Just what I’m needing right now too! My mom and the summer narc would both have that reaction to their dishonestly achieved results.

          18. lickemtomorrow says:

            Ha, Bubbles, I got Shockingly Saintly, too <3

            I used Violetta's link, and though it doesn't give percentages I'm lowest on Machiavellianism and Psychopathy (maybe 20% on both) and just slight higher (about 25%) on Narcissism. It's different to the quiz I took, and my level of Psychopathy seems to have reduced (no longer involved with the narc :P). But I think coming out about 30% lighter than the rest of the population in the other quiz seems to be about right. Even if my children don't believe me! Wait till I tell them the result of this quiz xox

          19. Truthseeker6157 says:

            Hi Bubbles,

            I could get quite into these three topics, but confess at the moment to knowing very little about them.

            I find it difficult to differentiate them clearly, lots of overlapping characteristics. As for your friend’s son, I’d hazard a guess he is a narcissist trying to look dangerous who added a bit of flourish with some Machiavellian flair! (I’m so mean today!)
            You can be all three, not surprisingly as they are so similar and by their very nature tough to research.

            Thank you for cheering me on with the running. You would laugh if you saw me increase the distance, I have to trick myself for the extra. “Just to the end of this road then you can stop if you need to.” Ha ha! I psych myself out otherwise.

            The route I take is incredibly pretty, old stone cottages, a Manor House, sheep in fields, a little river, water mill, hills and a little valley. I’m seeing the same people now too. Same dog walkers, runners, cyclists etc. All just enjoying the prettiness of it, even in the rain! It’s like a little club, a mix of people, mix of ages, just out and about, saying hello to each other, shouting the odd word of encouragement as we pass. I’m really loving it ! I’m very lucky where I live, I forgot that for a while x

          20. HG Tudor says:

            Now TS, why did I think of this when I read your final paragraph? Symphony No. 9, “From the New World” in E minor: Largo.

          21. Bubbles 🍾 says:

            Dearest Violetta,
            Thank you lovely
            Luv Bubbles xx 😘

          22. Bubbles 🍾 says:

            Dearest Asp Emp n Witch n A Victor,
            Yes, I laughed at some of the questions too
            I did it a few times changing the answers, however, it doesn’t sit right with me
            Narcs fudge everything, although Mr Tudor would probably say its beneath his dignity to even look a that rubbish …. he KNOWS EXACTLY what he is 🤣
            I luv the fact his good doctors can’t figure him out, as hard as they may try
            He will fudge it, so its a win win win !
            He wins, the good doctors win and mummy wins !
            Hush my mouth, did I just say that ? 😂
            Luv Bubbles xx 😘

          23. Witch says:

            @A Victor
            Thanks, narcs are easy to make fun off due to most of them having a lack of awareness and inability to control their rage and jealousy.
            When I said we are all capable of being manipulative my narc mum said “I’m not manipulative.” Haha
            She thinks she’s a saint martyr

          24. Truthseeker6157 says:


            Symphony number 9.

            Because you are picturing a quintessential countryside setting that isn’t Shaftesbury?

            Good idea, I fancy some toast.

          25. Bubbles 🍾 says:

            Dearest lickemtomorrow,
            Snap …….you’re like me!
            Mine was roughly 25% Mach, almost 0% 😱 for narc and approx 15% psycho
            I think I may have to resit, I need to focus on being more narcy …..I already know I’m a bit psycho 😂
            Back to the drawing board, er, I mean test 🤣
            Luv Bubbles xx 😘

          26. Bubbles 🍾 says:

            Dearest Truthseeker 6157,
            I think he’s just wanting ‘extra’ attention, giving oneself that label dimishes you of any liability of wrongdoing ….. no surprise there ! However, in his case, it backfired!
            Not so smart after all !

            I loved your beautiful valley description, it immediately brought to my mind… the scenes from the Vicar of Dibley ……. no no no yes !!!
            Sounds superb for your runs, Truth, keep up the good work and enjoy the views!
            Luv Bubbles xx 😘

          27. lickemtomorrow says:

            Wow, Bubbles, 0% on narcissism! You’re the lightest of the light <3

            And it looks like we're all a bit psycho xox

          28. Truthseeker6157 says:


            Laughing at your results. Ha ha! Mine were similar. These tests don’t reveal anything really, they are too surface level and offer no context. I can see why my scores landed where they did and, in specific contexts they are reflective of how I might behave but they show one small part of me, or rather the more narcissistic side, which we all know we have to a greater or lesser extent.

            Put us through a detailed empathy test and we would all score above average, way above average for the most part.
            This is why the TDC stands head and shoulders above so many tests out there. It is simply more honest (oh the irony) and is placed properly into context.

            There’s no doubt in my mind you belong in the empath group. I think I could have a decent guess at your cadre, less so school. If you ever decide to share your EDC result (I choose not to) I’ll tell you honestly what I would have guessed. Ha ha.

            Ignore this triad test, it’s little more than a quiz you might find in a woman’s magazine. Fun though, I enjoyed taking it. Those tests are always a giggle.

          29. Asp Emp says:

            Well, I knew I was never a ‘good’ girl (sniggering). Thank you for the ‘vote’ of confidence that I am an empath – yes, it will be interesting to see what I turn out to be – I have an idea, having read up on HG’s videos / articles. I do know, now, that I have a strong narcissistic trait in ‘anger’ (surprise, surprise – it shows anyway). It seems that I am a ‘dirty empath’ too (surprise, surprise!! sniggering).

            I did say that “I think my halo is bent” somewhere on this blog – I was right!!

            Laughing – ‘women’s magazine’ – I don’t buy them any more. Careful! The BBC may stop your tv aerial from working 😉

          30. Bubbles 🍾 says:

            Dearest lickemtomorrow,
            *Note to self …. must stop being so nice and be more selfish 🤣
            Luv Bubbles xx 😘

          31. A Victor says:

            LET, I got Shockingly Saintly too, zero psychopathy and narcissism, which I know is wrong since I did the TDC, and only a bit of machiavellianism. I think the word shockingly says it all, people are never surprised when I’m up for some mischief.

    2. lickemtomorrow says:

      There is no ‘safe’ word.

      The narcissist is in control.

      “Hush” is his way of telling you that.

      1. Asp Emp says:

        “the narcissist is in control” – we’ll see about that….

        1. HG Tudor says:

          We always obtain it, one way or the other, see The 3 Assertions of Control.

          1. Truthseeker6157 says:

            I know a song about that.

            ( ok ok stopping now)

          2. Asp Emp says:

            # 1 = _ _ _ _ _
            # 2 = _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
            # 3 = _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

            It’s always numbers 3, 5 or 10…..

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