Freedom Fighter – Part One



When you see a friend or a family member in our grip, what do you do?

I do not mean the instance where you see your replacement as intimate partner, somebody who is often a stranger to you, but occasionally might be somebody that you already know. Tempting as it may be, in such an instance, where you do not know your replacement and no matter how much you feel that you ought to warn this person, you are wasting your time.

The charming of the new victim is so intense and the smearing of you as the discarded replacement means that your chances of persuading the new victim that we are what we really are, amount to almost nil.

In such a situation you have your own defences to consider and you must leave the new victim to determine their own fate, harsh and heartless as it may sound, there is little hope for anything else.

But what of the situation where you had no or little prior involvement with our kind and you certainly had not been ensnared by us? What then where we snake our tendrils towards somebody that you care about?

It may be the case that you are sufficiently aware (and thus in a rare group of those who are so aware and observant) that you identify the person that you care about is in the midst of our seduction. You recognise the red flag (most likely because you have experienced themselves) and now you see them again, but applicable to your friend or family member. This might be that: –

–         You struggle to get to spend any time with this person because we monopolise their time;

–         They talk incessantly about us and how wonderful we are, making reference to how quickly we have fallen in love with them, how we want to whisk them away on a holiday within weeks of meeting or even noises are being made about engagement and/or living together with undue haste;

–         Your friend exhibits that starry-eyed, breathless and almost hypnotic reaction to our charm offensive;

–         Everything appears to revolve around us, they talk about what we do, what we want to do with them and what we have been doing.

You recognise the behaviours all too well. Both in terms of how the insidious tentacles of our kind are snaking around this person and also in terms of how they react.

You know what lies ahead. You know the illusion will be woven thicker, deeper and more tightly around our victim. You know how it will all turn sour as the devaluation begins and the abuse is unleashed. As undoubtedly an empathic person you have the overwhelming desire to want to help this person. You also feel obligated to share the knowledge, the “Narc Craft” which you have acquired. You may even feel evangelical about the need to prise open our grip and allow this person to be freed.

If you do decide to help, what hurdles will you face?

  1. The façade. We will have a ready-made façade of Lieutenants and members of our coterie who will only be too happy to vouch for us. These people will confirm what a great person we are, kind, honourable and how much we adore the person you are hoping to free. Not only will you be told this in order to unnerve and de-rail your attempt to secure this person’s freedom, but the target will be repeatedly exposed to this propaganda. It is your word against the word of many. You face an uphill battle in that regard;
  2. The addictive nature of the love-bombing. Everybody likes to be treated well. If a person is swept off their feet, treated like a queen, placed on a pedestal, complimented, feted, wooed, provided with treats and gifts, exposed to repeated delights and such like, what is there not to like? Who would ever want to give that up? This power of our charm, magnetism and love-bombing make it very difficult for the victim to say no and give up what is being offered to them.
  3. The mirroring. I have often explained that because of our mirroring that you fall in love with yourself. This is so compelling that should you try to intervene to halt this, then you are deny somebody themselves. That is difficult to achieve.
  4. Our ubiquity. In order to try to persuade the person that you care about that we are something other than we appear to be, you need to gain time with them to do this. We monopolise their time, either through our presence, our telephone calls, the creation of ever presence, our texting and the use of proxy behaviours through our lieutenants and our coterie. You are outnumbered and it makes your task all the more arduous.
  5. Smear. You will be smeared. When we arrive in the life of one of our victims we also like to charm those around this person. This is to bolster the façade and it is also to ensure that there are no hindrances to our seduction. We are adept at identifying those who are suspicious of our motives, those who are wary of our behaviour and who may well brief against us. Since we can detect this promptly, we will take steps to isolate you from our victim. Not only that, we will smear you in a variety of ways

–         You are jealous of what we and the victim have and we will invent conversations where that has been said;

–         You made a pass at us even though you knew we were with your friend/sister/cousin etc. Once again this is fabricated but we do this with such conviction based on our knowledge and experience that the victim nearly always takes our word over that of somebody else

–         You are trying to control the victim. A classic piece of projection where we suggest that you, as the intervening factor, are always seeking to control this person’s life. Of course you are only trying to do the right thing, but we shall paint this in a completely different light.

  1. We often select those victims who have suffered in some way previously. As a consequence, this means that the victim is ever so grateful to now have somebody as doting and kind as us. The very weakness which led to them suffering previously is exploited once again, causing them to cling tighter to us and to move away from you.
  2. Gullible. Most people are gullible. They wish to think well of people, they take people at face-value and this makes them vulnerable.
  3. Pre-empting. We identify that you are a troublemaker, someone who may try to thwart our ambitions with the victim. Accordingly, we tell the victim what we anticipate you will say about us. We may even admit to some of the things that we know you will say about us in order to demonstrate that we have nothing to hide. This endears us to our victim and also allows them to tell you, as their prospective freedom fighter, that we have already admitted to the allegation and explained why it happened. Thus the sting and heat is removed from your potential disclosure.

Faced with these hurdles, a determined and experienced opponent in us and a seemingly supine victim it is entirely understandable if you were to decide that there is no hope and you shall just have to let the matter run its course in the same way you would when you see your replacement being ensnared.

You have an advantage however.

This time you know the victim well. They know you well. They trust you.

Invariably you will only have one attempt to make them see the light. Repeated attempts to persuade them only causes you to play into our hands as the crazy-making and jealous best friend or the controlling parent.

Whereas your replacement will regard you with suspicion, the person you care about will at least listen to you. Much in the same way as dealing with a smear campaign you need to allow the victim to make their own decision. To that end you need to: –

  1. Explain the behaviours you have identified as problematic;
  2. Explain why you know them to be problematic (e.g. based on your own experience, material you have read)
  3. Explain you are stating this purely because you care and you respect that it is the person’s life so you are only going to mention it the once;
  4. Show to them independent material (in a succinct form) which shows how the various behaviour are narcissistic in nature and part of the seduction;
  5. Invite the person to flush our behaviour out by asking certain question (see the Exposed articles part one and two for more on this)

This approach may buy them time to question what is happening. This will give them the time to reflect and work it out for themselves. If they do not see it, repeating it will make no difference, the brainwashing has been effective already and you will end up alienating yourself.

By planting a seed of consideration, reflection and doubt, you may well cause this delay to the seduction to bring out a glimpse of our true selves from behind the mask, especially if the narcissist is a Lesser or Mid-Range. The challenge to their assumed flawless seduction, the hindrance to the otherwise predicted ensnarement and their lack of control compared to a Greater may well result in the mask slipping at an early juncture, the ignition of fury and evidence of us lashing out. That will be likely to be a clincher in allowing you to adopt a smug smile and declare,

“What did I tell you?”

You do have the chance to be a freedom fighter. The window of opportunity is slim and the odds are stacked against you, but you can succeed.

If you fail on the first attempt, do not labour the point. A second bite of the cherry will not prove fruitful and you will actually cripple your ability to assist the person you care about during devaluation. Instead, be ready to be there to catch this person when the golden period ends and the devaluation commences. You may have done enough to ensure that when the battle field alters when devaluation starts that you have more than a fighting chance to secure this person’s freedom then.

18 thoughts on “Freedom Fighter – Part One

  1. I’m​ in this predicament with a close friend. A lot about the person my friend has been seeing recently points to disturbing narc traits. Worse, of the lower lesser orientation!
    I gently raised my concerns after a particularly confounding incident. I talked about my own experience then shared a couple of not-so-in-your-face posts from this blog… and quietly called it a day!

    Like HG said, belabouring the matter only makes it harder for you to get through to the person you’re trying to warn. So I have refrained from making a crusade of it, but I worry for my dear friend. A lot.

  2. SweetFreedom says:

    I was warned by his own son and his ex-wife. I ignored both and chalked up the ex-wife to being crazy and paranoid—like he always claimed she was. Nobody could have changed my mind.

    I have compassion for his new primary source but I think warning her would do no good. The same if somebody I was close to was with a narc—I’d be ignored.

    1. Twilight/Dawn says:

      I learned a longtime ago people believe what they want, and people forget just as fast if it never directly effected them.
      An opportunity presented itself once, I took it. When they questioned me I only said educate yourself on what a narcissist sociopath really is. Directed here and dropped the subject.
      They were given a choice, and they must make it. The only power we truely have is choice. We chose to give excuses for behaviors, even the covert ones. We chose to ignore patterns in behaviors. We chose the easiest route. The lies we chose to tell ourselves are the ones that do the most damage. They can be started by others then we repeat them to ourselves until they become our truth when in reality all it is, is a lie.
      Being honest with yourself is the hardest thing, it’s uncomfortable 😣 and the lie is comfortable and beautiful.
      I do apologize I am rambling my thoughts this morning.

      1. Amber says:

        Sweet Freedom: i was on the other end, trying to warn the new wife. She told me don’t ever talk down about my ex to her again. He still tries to get with me nine years later, while she’s dying of cancer, behind her back. I often remember her misplaced loyalty and wonder how it’s working out for her. 😕

        And twilight, that wasn’t rambling. That was perfect. I’m very impressionable, so i basically self teach. Your statement is so true. No one could have warned me about the man i mentioned above, and people actually did, because i only listen to myself. I also listen to the one leader in my life, at a time, as a person with traditionalist religious views. Being that i started the first seven years of my life in a cult, it makes sense to an extent. I’m learning so much about npd from Mr. Tudor and his followers. I can’t thank everyone enough.

        1. Twilight/Dawn says:

          Amber there is nothing wrong with listening to yourself, being aware of the emotion behind the thoughts and discerning the truth of them is the hard part. There is nothing wrong with being self taught, you strive to figure things out.
          I am sorry to hear you started off in a cult, I have read many things and watched documentaries on them. They were very distressing to me.
          For me I researched NPD long before I came here to the blog, HG is a source of information that is unattainable anywhere else. He breaks it down to where anyone can understand and interacts with everyone.
          What he has created is a place to learn first hand from the source and a safe place for us to say what we need and understand we are not alone and support from each other.
          Take care

  3. k says:

    HG – Thank you so much!! As a mom, I’ll be on the lookout. Should the situation arise, I’ll follow your advise exactly. ……perhaps “my whole thing” was not in vain……

    1. HG Tudor says:


  4. Amber says:

    I do need to issue my empty protest that its important to seek to rescue people from cults and support those in abusive relationships, but only from a supportive standpoint, unless theyre under 18, in which case one can help to find an attorney to legally emancipate them from their abusers. 🙂

  5. Amber says:

    “We often select those victims who have suffered in some way previously. As a consequence, this means that the victim is ever so grateful to now have somebody as doting and kind as us. The very weakness which led to them suffering previously is exploited once again, causing them to cling tighter to us and to move away from you.” I asked you once re having sympathy for victims and you said you had none. I’m curious as to whether your non belief in the afterlife leads you to be able to act with no mercy, knowing no mercy shall be shown to you after death, or do you shrug off the idea of the afterlife because you want to avoid the idea that you know you’re approaching an inevitable end? That can be my question #1. Lol

  6. SVR says:

    HG he said he would seduce me at the start. Does he know he is one of your kind?

    1. HG Tudor says:

      On that comment alone it is not determinative merely indicative.

      1. SVR says:

        Just seen this. Thanks for answering.

  7. amsodone says:

    A couple people tried to tell me that (the narc) was a bit off.. but I did not heed as their comments did not make sense to me as comments were based upon emotion and seemed subjective, without fact.
    I would have appreciated a referral to… information and knowledge is power; it is all about informed choice. I would not have continued along the path, had I known.

  8. Brian says:

    I can understand how the mid-range keeps someone confused for a long time, their behaviour is so covert and easily denied/explained away.
    Im curious as to how the greater keeps someone for long periods of time if their abuse is so overt.
    I would think that the promise of the golden period and the charm, although powerful wouldn’t be enough to make up for the overt stuff.

    1. HG Tudor says:

      Charm, influence and power are considerable in their effect and with Greaters the abuse is not necessarily as overt as you suggest.

      1. Brian says:

        Yes, thank you.
        I probably got the wrong impression.

    2. VFH says:

      Yup. Mine was Mr covert from Nbr 39 covert st, covertstown, cove ert.

      Many years, house, marriage, family. The red flags were flapping from day 1 but I was blind. So so clever, so manipulative, so calculating. So fu**ing wrong. Stockholm Syndrome is the best way to describe it. For my situation anyway.

      No contact allows the dust to settle, the fog to lift and the sheer enormity – and horror – of what you’ve been party to, to hit you squarely in the face.

      I was definitely chosen. Glad I fell from grace. I don’t care about the smear. I don’t care what people who don’t even know me think of me. My predecessor was smeared to me too but I didn’t judge. Not once. I was empathetic. He knew he was onto a winner by that token.

      So let them judge away! They’re welcome to their ill gotten joy whilst they have it. Poor souls. I’m just glad I’m out. So SO glad.

      I wear my NS (narc survivor) badge with pride next to my Helping the Aged Cross the Road and Swimming 10 Lengths of the pool badges. Stripes well and truly earnt.

  9. IntelAvatar says:

    You got that right. Cease to be the savior. Messenger yes, but only once with enough sincerity that the person acknowledges how to reach back to you in time of need. There are others to help. “Next!”

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