10 Years of Knowing the Narcissist : The Future
I have explained that there is still much to convey to you.
Here is your chance to have input into that.
What would you like me to address in the future? What aspects of narcissism and psychopathy would you like me to cover? Is there a burning issue you have that you want me to turn my attention to? Is there a series perhaps that I have not concluded you would want to see finished? Are there ideas you would like me to expand on?
This is your opportunity to tell me what you want me to talk and write about.
For once, you have a narcissistic psychopath listening to you.
Use it well.
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It would appear that I am now to be labelled as toxic through defending Jordy, who in turn has been labelled a bully. I would like to respond, as I reject the label of “toxic” and am not in the habit of routinely defending bullies.
Firstly, to suggest that I am defending Jordy in this conflict is highly questionable. I was asked directly to comment on my ongoing interactions with Jordy as her behaviour was seen by some as abusive. I responded to the contrary. I then further responded to additional questions from Leigh, Annaamel and a statement from AV. This was in December, I have neither participated in the conflict since then, nor have I made a single negative comment about, or even challenged the views held by Annaamel, Leigh and AV.
If I am defending Jordy, then apparently I’m not very good at it.
It should be noted that I have been involved in lengthy conversations with Jordy on several threads totally unrelated to the conflict. I have no reason to exclude Jordy. I do not see these conversations as my defending her. I see them for what they are, interesting conversations. I have also interacted with Leigh, again in a conversation unrelated to the current conflict. I saw no reason to curb my interactions with Leigh either.
I have not commented about the conflict up until the comment on this thread a week ago where I raised a concern with Jordy and in addition, asked that long term bloggers in general prioritise the blog environment as it pertains to new arrivals. Not an unreasonable request, but one other commenters might reasonably have different views on.
Secondly, if I am to be accused of defending a bully it makes sense to look at what exactly constitutes bullying as I think it merits further examination.
The definitions used by schools, workplaces and psychologists are actually very similar. Bullying is said to have three core features.
1. Repetition. Bullying must happen repeatedly over an extended period of time and be a sustained pattern of behaviour.
2. Intent to harm, intimidate or dominate. The behaviour is aimed at causing distress, humiliation, exclusion, or fear. The goal is most often to establish power or control rather than to explore or resolve an issue.
3. Power imbalance. This is often overlooked. One person has some form of advantage: social status, authority, popularity, group support or simply, outnumbering the other person.
As per this widely used definition, power is the key feature and Jordy does not satisfy the criteria for being labelled a bully in my view. Without a power imbalance, we are far more likely to be witnessing mutual conflict rather than bullying. This is very much what I see happening currently, a conflict loop.
I disagree with the labelling of Jordy as a bully.
I disagree with being described as toxic and regard it as an insult.
Whilst I do not accept that bullying occurs on the blog, I will say that when people are involved in a period of sustained conflict I think it can FEEL to them like they are being bullied. Feeling something does not automatically make it true. The golden period FEELS genuine, but is not. This does not mean that I think those feelings should be dismissed, I believe they are valid. Conflict can be upsetting for all those involved and I find it painful to watch, but I also think it is damaging to apply labels to people when those labels are unsubstantiated.
TS
Your history of relentless decency and inclusion on this blog is substantial and requires no defence on your part. Attempts to have you compromise your principles to adapt to “group think” is regrettable and signifies extreme emotional thinking on the part of those who would demand it of you.
“A newcomer in June ’23?”
I discovered HG in summer 2022 and began both my education and my participation in the comments. HG once answered a question about newcomers, explaining that anyone with less than a year of education is considered a newcomer.
That said, all of you refer to Josephina as a newcomer. However, she herself wrote that she had been reading the blog for four years before she began commenting in 2025.
She presented as a newcomer because of the nature of her comments. For example, she was unaware of the distinction between the Ultra and the Greater(s), along with a few other minor points, which led everyone to assume she was entirely new. She later explained that this was due to the language barrier.
Again, when we turn to the evidence, it is remarkable how you attempt to present the situation despite the readily available facts.
I am grateful that Josephina clarified the matter herself and, at the very least, pointed out why she had stayed away from commenting. I also remember her mentioning that she generally avoids participating in forums and blogs, so once again the situation is now being presented somewhat differently.
(That comment is also available, should proof be required.)
But hey, accuracy no longer seems to matter at this point.
But Annaamel, you forgot to post the following links:
1. The one where your apparent empathy misfires and Leigh is not impressed with your fake help, telling you how insensitive you are. Leigh almost wrote the very same thing, namely that you came across as: “Someone who struggles to put themselves in others’ shoes to see how their comments would be felt.”
2. The links to the comments where you drop your poison into vulnerable readers’ ears, smearing other readers who are supportive of HG by calling them his lieutenants.
3. The links to the comments where you team up with WN in doing so.
4. And my favourite, the link where HG himself calls you out for doing it.
By the way, on this article, and on the others celebrating 10 Years Knowing the Narcissist, *The Blog*, *The Articles*, and *The Future*…
Where are your comments?
Where are you congratulating HG?
Where are you expressing gratitude?
Where are you showing support for HG and his work?
***Nowhere.***
You don’t give a damn. Your one and only concern has always been yourself and your facade.
“Oh, I believe I was classified into the wrong category of empath! HG, if you post another article on Contagions, I will take over and talk about myself and how I experience it all, so you can reassess me publicly.”
If I had to classify you, I would say you are a master of indirect aggression disguised as compassion.
A jellyfish in an angel costume.
More comfortable recruiting allies than facing your opponent directly.
Brave only through other people.
Never the one to step into the ring alone.
TS,
I believe that Jordy is a bully and targets me. This latest conflict isn’t because she targets me because I know that’s what bullies do. Its because I see you as continuing to minimize her bullying behaviors. I can’t change your actions. I can only change my own. I didn’t want to ignore you but saying something has caused another conflict and I don’t want to do that either. I think it’s best that we no longer interact and that’s the approach I’ll be taking.
“I’m not the provocateur here. Open your eyes.”
This comes from a person who, out of nowhere, called one of HG’s interviewers “full of shit” and a narcissist on the basis of a single interview, despite it being a pleasant and respectful exchange.
It simply did not fit your understanding, and whatever empathy you claim to possess for a person who had never done anything to you disappeared instantly.
When I challenged you about it, your response was, deal with it:
“This is my opinion. Not a nice one, but still my opinion.”
Yet when I challenge you about your own double standards, you suddenly invent an entirely different set of criteria in order to present yourself in a favourable light, despite behaving in a manner that is not empathic at all.
Jordyguin and Leigh,
“This comes from a person who, out of nowhere, called one of HG’s interviewers “full of shit” and a narcissist on the basis of a single interview, despite it being a pleasant and respectful exchange.”
I remember the interviewer in this instance. Leigh wasn’t the only one who thought the interviewer was insincere and questionable. I thought she was too, based on ‘evidence’ in relation to the subject matter she claimed to know well.
The interview may have seemed to some to have been a pleasant and respectful exchange. This doesn’t automatically mean the interviewer was trustworthy or that she knew her subject matter in a well-informed or well-intentioned way.
Also, people can have empathy and still have an opinion that may be negative. Having empathy doesn’t automatically mean you agree with, or condone, what someone is saying or doing.
I’d like to ask you two questions, Jordyguin:
1. Why do you repeatedly dredge up the past? and
2. Why are you so antagonistic with the same people over and over again?
“This doesn’t automatically mean the interviewer was trustworthy or that she knew her subject matter in a well-informed or well-intentioned way.”
Nor does it automatically mean she was “full of shit” or a narcissist.
Your concern was simply that she did not share your views on astrology. That was all.
“Also, people can have empathy and still have an opinion that may be negative. Having empathy doesn’t automatically mean you agree with, or condone, what someone is saying or doing.”
Double standards.
You and your pals are allowed to hold negative opinions. Others are not.
“2. Why are you so antagonistic with the same people over and over again?”
This comes from someone who repeatedly calls me “he”, despite my having told you on numerous occasions that I am female 😂
“1. Why do you repeatedly dredge up the past?”
You need to learn to examine the evidence before opening your foul mouth.
It was Susan (“this autistic…” – a reference to the past), Leigh (claiming Josephina left because of JG – a blatant falsehood), AV, and AA who brought up the past first. That then forces me to revisit the past in order to correct the distortions they create.
It is an utterly pointless exercise.
Even Leigh wrote this about WN (in the thread Truthseeker linked), once again demonstrating just how hypocritical and contrarian Leigh can be:
“At first I felt bad that WN felt like she was being victimized. After reading through this thread though, I see red flags flying everywhere. I’ve seen her be argumentative before too. I gave her the benefit of the doubt though because she seemed kind to others. My antennae are up now though.”
Yet when I pointed out exactly the same thing about WN, I was not allowed to do so.
LOL. I’m so done with it.
It is such a waste of time continuing to engage with this little group of contrarians and hypocrites, who are not even clear about where they stand with one another.
When it suits them, they either condemn one another or ally with one another.
So glitchy😂
I just chose this spot randomly but I could have picked other spots. There are many on this blog….
Ladies…. Please….. I miss the dialog and debate about topics that we joined this blog for…. Who cares what was said in the past or now… really…. Can we come up with something interesting and exciting to fight about? Or agree upon? Or debate? Give us all something meaty to chew…?
HG has not allowed me into this discussion so HG may never post this but I hope he does….. because I realize I sound like a banal Rodney King “ Can we all get along?” And that is not reality…
But one way to diffuse the circular conversation is to break it off with a new idea, off topic and fresh and interesting that we could all pounce on. Surely you have realized in reading your various comments: you are ALL bright , intelligent , educated , etc…
Ok I leave it to you…. but here is my new idea. I was watching a YouTube on the formation of narcissism albeit by a prominent narc who I don’t really like ( guess who, and obviously not HG). We have discussed the topic of narc formation before and there are many theories some uniform and HG’s position is it is a combination of nature and nurture in an unstable early childhood environment.
Now this might sound bat shit crazy but what role do dogs have as interlopers in early childhood formation or perhaps pets in general. Studies have shown that owning a pet can increase your life! So why wouldn’t a dog entering a child’s very early life at a very early childhood age… why could not the dog or pet help? Ie, many children are isolated from peers, others, etc… in these environments in many ways but their dog/pet who is “man’s best friend “ who validates the child, gives it unconditional love and acceptance in reality…. Could that not help?
I say this as my middle lesser narc has a good side and consistency in reality with dogs. He came from a very un-stable isolated environment and was traumatized. But he was raised at birth with his dog and that was his constant comfort and best friend through it all. In fact, he was VERY attached and had a mental breakdown when his dog died in his teens. He has consistently shown nothing but love for dogs, ie walking a dog for free for a sick elderly neighbor, giving to dog charities when poor, and he was a solid, loving and attentive doggy daddy to our dogs when married. In fact when our senior dog died after a year of our divorce, he created a blog for her where he wrote poems, painted 20 pictures, created stories and has about 50 pictures of her. His first album has a photo of her and he dedicates the album to her and calls her the “ love of his life.” It has done well on YouTube. I like it as I loved her too. They say narcs can’t love. Well what is that all about? Now I know that dogs don’t speak back and they don’t challenge reality and narcs live in a fantasy…. But I wonder if a little toddler surrounded by the attention, adoration, validation, unconditional love and acceptance that a dog gives can be helped by that little angel. While plenty of studies have been done about pets in prison ( positive) , the elderly and loneliness ( positive), disabled vets ( positive) emotional support animals ( positive), has anyone considered their impact seriously on cluster B? Are there any studies on it?
Thoughts?
My best to each and everyone of you!
May you hold your swords up high and hope you smile while you do!
X
Hi Leigh,
A few comments have come through together. I’ll answer them one by one so I don’t misunderstand. I have questions.
As regards this comment. How am I minimising Jordy’s behaviours? I answered your comment before Christmas as regards abusive behaviour. This was not me intervening but me responding to you. I gave an honest opinion and stayed out of it up until the comment on this thread where I raised a concern direct with Jordy, and in addition pointed out that prolonged conflict – despite motivations that can be well meaning- can be off putting to new arrivals who I see as a priority. This is my opinion, just my opinion, am I not entitled to state my own opinion?
Is it because I have continued interacting in conversations with Jordy outside this conflict that causes you to say I am minimising Jordy’s (in your opinion) bullying behaviour? Am I expected to fall in, not speak to Jordy because you have decided I am not to speak to her? If Wiser Now, you, AV and Annaamel are in conflict with Jordy, am I required to pledge allegiance and pick a side? Just me? Or are all bloggers not allowed to speak to Jordy? What then is the end objective here?
Personally, I don’t have an issue with you, with Jordy or with Annaamel. I would prefer to interact with you all as I have done up until now. Have I ever tried to tell you not to interact with Wiser Now? I’m afraid I won’t be told who I can and can’t interact with on a public blog.
“I think it’s best that we no longer interact and that’s the approach I’ll be taking.”
No longer interact with me, or with Jordy?
TS,
Using WN is a perfect example of you minimizing Jordy’s behaviors. WN doesn’t bully you on an ongoing basis the way Jordy bullies me. If she was bullying you, I would say something to her as well. You and WN had a disagreement. Lots of people have disagreements. That’s totally normal in life. That’s not what’s happening here. Jordy repeatedly bullies me and every time you interact with her, you’re telling me you’re okay with her bullying me. That dynamic doesn’t work for me anymore.
Maybe I’m being unreasonable. I don’t think so though. Just like you get to decide who you’ll interact with, so do I. I hope we can put this to rest now.
TS,
I made a comment on the “Why I Relish It” thread about Mr. Tudor. Jordy decided to come at me unprovoked. I was quite content ignoring Jordy’s comment because I don’t care what she thinks. It wasn’t until you decided to say something that I spoke up. If you insist on saying something, then I need to set it straight. I don’t want to be dealing with this nonsense 6 months later either. I’m not the provocateur here. Open up your eyes.
Hi Leigh,
Are you referring to the “I’ve shared a lot of my life on here” comment? My response was to you and for you, in that I see sharing too much online as problematic. Online narc used what I shared against me, I learned my lesson. I’ve never been open online but I’m less open now. I see that as prudent. Again, this was my opinion in response to your comment, particularly given that empaths in general have a high degree of openness and are prone to sharing online.
I wasn’t commenting in relation to the ongoing conflict or referencing anything to do with who was provocateur and who wasn’t.
For what it’s worth, I don’t see you as finding this conflict pleasant and I would estimate it is pretty much first and foremost in your mind when commenting on the blog just now. I’m not involved in the conflict, it isn’t first and foremost for me, I simply commented in relation to your statement “ I’ve shared a lot of my life on here.”
My eyes are open. I’m afraid I see things very differently and I have my own reasons for that.
When we look at conflict once it has escalated, it gets further and further away from the original source and therefore more and more difficult for anyone to decipher and resolve. All four of you, (you, AV, Annaamel, and Jordy) are now demonstrating pronounced empathy erosion in my view.
I’m looking far less at the words and far more at the structure of the conflict, the order of events, the comings and goings, (in fairness, that’s far easier to do when I’m not in receipt of the hurtful words and comments from either side) when I look at it this way, I get a very different view from all four of you.
Please don’t patronise me by framing my logical and clear eyed analysis of the abusive behaviour on this blog as ’empathy erosion,’ TS. I recognise you are being questioned by a few readers in this thread but in describing me as suffering from ‘pronounced empathy erosion’ you are using me to enhance your own perpsective while deligitimising my own.
I am not experiencing empathy erosion. My empathy levels are as strong as when I arrived, although I am perhaps more judicious in where I direct it. I read the blog with significant detachment most of the time, and I’d like nothing more for it to be a place where adults can debate each other respectfully. I don’t believe AV or Leigh are experiencing empathy erosion either. I’d be more likely to describe their empathy as weaponised than eroded.
As to all the questions you asked Leigh, I don’t believe she asked you not to engage with Jordy, so there wasn’t really any need to argue that it was your right to do so.
Hi, Whitney–
“They are the most genuine people- they have the opposite of a narcissist’s facade.”
It is true that they are different conditions, but I mask nearly all the time when I’m around others. Owing to some of my behaviors and non-standard affect, people who don’t understand have at times accused me of being haughty, uncaring, or a narcissist. Because of this I have a diligent practice and several systems in place to avoid detection or trouble.
I wouldn’t say my mask is the opposite of the narcissistic facade–they’re both about survival and control. I think the main difference is that autism isn’t structured around seeking the Prime Aims. But I think where the ASD and NPD facades align is in terms of control/survival, and that narcissists who maintain effective facades and autistics with effective masks can appear to you as quite genuine and just being themselves. But, speaking for myself, I’m not really in touch with a stable, central “me” (my self exists but it is like smoke), while I think narcissists have an empty core if I’ve understood HG.
All that to say I’m just as phony as any narcissist in terms of the person I put forth, but the source and the reason they must maintain control are different. I think it’s part of why until I took HGs detectors I thought I was a narcissist (in addition to my typical empathic over-introspection and sense of guilt). All the same, as with the narcissist who maintains a facade, no one really knows me. I operate in the shadows while putting forth that I’m an open book. I imitate. I act. I pretend. There are those of us (as with narcissists) who cannot or do not maintain a front, but for those of us who do we mirror, imitate, perform, etc. So as narcissists with facades who aren’t known, we are not known while appearing genuine, as effective narcissists do. And for different reasons we both must keep it that way.
…..”When people arrive here, I think they need to see support from us all as a group, not prolonged conflict and point scoring obvious or otherwise. They certainly shouldn’t feel chased out. If they do, then that’s a fail in my view.”…..
……..”I also don’t dispute that if people take offence at a comment they have the right to respond in a manner of their choosing.”……..
Ok.
Did this kind of approach / thinking work when new students attended a new school ‘environment’ despite there being older students who had ‘lived’ in the same learning environment? Think back to when you went to school. How were you treated? How did you treat the other students? Apply similar thoughts within social activities / work / family / etc, back then, during and now.
There’s a difference in spotting someone (or their comment) and following that up with a provocative answer as in a ‘locked on target’ approach and continuing to do so over a period of years. Of course, the ‘target’ may respond coldly, or, not at all because they have learned HG’s work too.
In my opinion, it is not fair to suggest that it is only new readers of HG’s work that need to feel safe AND supported “above all else”. To me, it appears quite divisive and dismissive. I have seen long time users of HG’s work struggling and yet only get supported by, what I’ve seen, the same people.
In my view. The priority is for HG’s work to continue without restriction. To be available to to anyone, including those outside his KTN blog. Without prejudice. Without imposing restrictions on Human Rights, the right to be a human, to be heard and to be listened to. To have access to support without being excluded by an elite group that decides you do not belong. There should be many pipelines to HG’s work, not just two. Even if some of those pipelines are underground. Trees cannot survive without roots! The galaxy cannot survive without it’s scientific and mathematic formulas. Yet some of humanity keep interfering and upsetting the balance to ensure that the formulas continue to serve the galaxy in the way it needs to be nurtured.
Thank you HG for moderating.
Hi Asp Amp,
“Think back to when you went to school.”
Do I have to ?!
“ How were you treated?”
Some people were approachable and welcoming, others less so.
“How did you treat the other students?”
Evenly, at least I hope I did. I was obviously closer to some than others. The girls in my school were cliquey. People tended to stay within their own groups. I think the guys had a better set up, they all seemed to hang out en masse.
“Apply similar thoughts within social activities / work / family / etc, back then, during and now.”
The main difference now is that I am less easily hurt by negative comments. Similarly though, I am more dismissive in that I’m more likely to just move on if I suspect the same issues will keep coming up. I’m also not a girl’s girl. I have learned to just accept that.
“There’s a difference in spotting someone (or their comment)…. Because they have learned HG’s work too.”
Agree with all of this. I would add also that there are many forms of provocation, some more subtle / less obvious than others.
“In my opinion it is not fair to suggest that it is only new readers that need to feel safe AND supported. To me it appears quite divisive and dismissive.”
My thinking there is that I see new readers as a priority because when they arrive on the blog they are often confused, upset and more vulnerable. Long term readers are likely less so as they have had access to HG’s work for longer. HG’s work provides the tools to deal with narcissists. These tools also offer solutions for prolonged conflict with non narcissists. Long term readers have these tools at their disposal whereas new arrivals have not yet had opportunity to learn them, this is why I see conflict as more impactful for them and therefore see them as a priority. It was not my intention to imply that long term readers are undeserving of safety and support.
In reality, I think there are far more supportive comments on the blog than provocative comments. I see the blog as a safe space for people to express their varied views. I believe in free speech so I also think that people should be free to express themselves as they see fit providing that’s in line with blog rules. I agreed to those rules when I arrived. I don’t enjoy witnessing conflict, particularly when it is prolonged and has passed the point of resolution, (I am no longer active on the Questioning Me thread for that reason) but I think sometimes it can have its place and with this type of subject matter bouts of conflict are almost inevitable. I don’t spend as much time on the blog as I used to so I am now more selective in terms of threads I read and am involved in. I also won’t be privy to every bout of conflict that breaks out.
I agree with your thoughts in your last paragraph. I recommend HG’s work in various forums but readily admit that the blog is my first love and that is largely due to the positive I experience I’ve had being here.
Mr. Tudor,
You are so good to me. Thank you for completing Tom Hardy. I was a bit surprised. I thought he might be narcissistic, because his analysis in some ways reminded me of Depp’s. I’m quite curious about the line where someone ends up as narcissistic vs a normal. At least one difference I noticed was that Depp took much longer to stop the drug abuse. I like how you’re sharing examples of people who have outside influences on them, like industry pressure and mistakes in youth. For me…it was the charity and his children as the driving force of getting clean that proved I wasn’t looking at a narcissist. I’m super excited for the Candace Owens conclusion too…because some of her circumstances are similar. Where profit or parents may have had more to do with the situation than pathology. But she has the lack of control environment to become the narc, whereas Hardy did not seem to.
Anyway, Happy Christmas! Thank you for everything!
Mr. Tudor,
I hope I can still make requests. I’m curious about what happened with Chloe & Mike. You left “When HG Met the Narcissists” on a cliffhanger. Will you please give us an update?
Mr. Tudor–
I found something today that brought up a thought of something else that it would be really interesting if you covered. You’ve shared a number of stories about your therapists…could you share some of the psychological techniques they taught you (if any) to address thoughts driven by your narcissism? How have you, being the Ultra, used these techniques to improve yourself and your dealings with others? Have you turned them on your victims or against the therapists to make them think you were healing?
If your victims (IPSS or IPPS) attended therapy whilst remaining involved with you, how did you address that situation, whatever the therapist was advising them to do to help them in their relationship with you? Did you ever get invited or charm their therapist? Something like that, while deeply disturbing, would be very beneficial to your readers and listeners in my view.
Thank you so much for all that you do and this lovely space for making suggestions. I’m super looking forward to whatever is next.
Thank you so much for the lovely hoover, sir. You called us all in easy as you please…it was such joy to see so many all digitally together, united in their appreciation for you and your work.
Dear HG, I just wish that all of your books were finished!
Indeed.
Thank you for this opportunity, sir!
I would love to continue to learn more about the Ultra! Your past and present, from all realms of your life of what would be okay to share with us and about your views on history, art, education, science, spirituality, global challenges and society!
My addition to the lists in more detail:
1. Mankind – its past and its future.
I would love to know about your observations regarding the evolution and devolution of our societies of today. The chaotic and structured matrices and their formations?
Ruling systems, leaders and the population (all classifications) and if they all need to work together at one point in order to evolve out of the destructive ideology and course?
What would be the identifiable characteristics of a leader and his/her leading pack who can unmistakably unite the opposing clans and help populations to identify a cause which will create an impact over lifetimes, helping humanity to unfollow the self-destructive mechanisms and course?
2. Power. The undeniable importance of power and the law of nature is impeccable but unbalanced power competes with life itself and causes destruction of all living organisms which are initially balanced out. Prey-predator cycles are initially intact but get then disturbed and destroyed by the build of society. Why the cruel and incomprehensible war with life when the society begins to distance itself from nature?
Is it the case that the art of power can also manifest, by those individuals who are imbued with it extensively, in ways to create a constructive outcome for the co-creation of life not against it?
I wonder if individuals simply do not feel like it’s their home because they are largely isolated from nature and that’s why they don’t care.
What needs to happen in order for them to begin to feel the connection with their home and care for it out of their own volition?
3. If I Ruled My World – by HG Tudor the Ultra: your world, sir, how would it be? Who would be the Knights of your Round Table? And how would your Kingdom be structured? The vision for your beautiful continent, your home and its prosperity?
Thank you, sir!
Thank you for your suggestions.
Addition to the list.
4. It is still difficult to keep narcissists and empaths (or normals) with autism or autistic traits apart. The behaviour can be so similar; the strong focus on the self, misunderstandings over simple things and ignition of fury/anger really fast, over nothing really. Apologising afterwards truly genuinely and I’m clueless to if it’s genuine or not. The only indicator I can base my decision on that a person can’t be a narcissist is the absent fuel matrix, so I tend to think it must be the similarity of the autistic traits and no more. But then remembering that narcissists can also have skimmed fuel matrices and also can have fuel substituted like alcohol or drugs (which is not the case in this situation) or video games, if I remember correctly re games.
Could a skimmed fuel matrix only involve a tiny number of colleagues at work, a tiny number of friends, a pet and just an IPPS and that’s it? And if a narcissist who for instance has autism is also prone to have skimmed fuel matrices, because of autism, or it doesn’t play a role at all? And for a narcissist with autism; how does it influence the whole thing, the construct? Would autism make them light versions of narcissists with smaller fuel matrices?
Thank you for considering, sir!
Speaking as an autistic empath (yes, I finally submitted my Empath Detector, which HG kindly scored despite my three years of trying to answer what were very difficult questions for me–oops, did I mention myself; sorry, should one have said “one” as if one were King Charles?) who’s been out of the loop here due to health reasons, I’m curious whether this suggestion was followed up on. I’ve done a search and can’t find any new content by HG on autism, only his existing video and interviews saying that they are two different, unrelated conditions. And two of the interviews were with an autistic host with PDA whom HG assessed as an empath.
In fact, here’s AI on the subject, including HG’s already addressed assessment of autism: https://share.google/aimode/6QG6UnMWQS3N2ISyg
PS: Are you the same person who chased me away from this blog by referring to me as “that autistic”? Whereas you say you are an empath???
Hi Susan!
I am not aware of anything on autism BUT I know some bloggers here have referred to autism. Maybe they know more….
Hey Susan,
“Speaking as an autistic empath (yes, I finally submitted my Empath Detector…) who’s been out of the loop here due to health reasons, I’m curious whether this suggestion was followed up on.”
Welcome back to the loop, and thank you for letting us know. Otherwise, I would not have been able to tell you and a narcissist apart. Certain autistic individuals can be very difficult to distinguish from narcissists.
“I’ve done a search and can’t find any new content by HG on autism, only his existing video and interviews saying that they are two different, unrelated conditions. And two of the interviews were with an autistic host with PDA whom HG assessed as an empath.”
Yes, I’ve watched all of them. I only wish Harry had spoken a little less and allowed HG to speak a little more.
“In fact, here’s AI on the subject…”
Thank you, but I prefer HG’s view on the matter.
“Are you the same person who chased me away from this blog by referring to me as ‘that autistic’? Whereas you say you are an empath???”
I remember you having several clashes on the blog in the past, and one of them was with a reader named Elodie, with whom I got along very well. Unfortunately, after that clash, she left the blog. She also had the impression that you were a narcissist.
That is the only exchange I paid particular attention to. I did not really follow the others.
Later, you made sure to reference autism and certain disabilities in your comments, and I think people then became more cautious and gave you more latitude.
As for whoever tried to chase you away from the blog, they clearly did a poor job. You’re still here, so that point goes to you. Well done!
This is my only exchange with you, and let’s keep it that way.
I find autistic people come across the opposite of narcissists. They are the most genuine people- they have the opposite of a narcissist’s facade. They are just themselves. They are honest. They have poor cognitive empathy but their emotional empathy is usually high. Have you actually met someone with autism in real life Jody?
Hi Whitney! No, I don’t have a real life anymore 🥲
Kidding. Yes, I have met some. Some are all the things you describe + …
Hence my original request.
Whitney, hi again.
I hope you go to the thread of the named article and read the whole thing, so you can see why autistic people can sometimes be very different from what you described, and how strongly their thinking can resemble narcissistic perception when they express it openly, as in this example here, which is connected to an even better example if you go to that thread. https://narcsite.com/2025/08/02/i-second-that-emotion-27/
I could not have imagined that Susan would repurpose my comment to Annaamel into an attack upon herself. I did not read the exchange further at the time, but I went back and saw what a distortion her mind had constructed.
You can see the self-absorbed spiral she fell into, making it central to her reasons for leaving, only to return now and again create false claims and further distortions.
I am actually thankful to Susan and Annaamel for popping in and demonstrating so vividly what I was asking about. Susan demonstrated how this can play out by taking criticism that was directed entirely at another person, namely Annaamel, who in my view is generally a thorn in the side because of how manipulative she can be towards readers and how passive-aggressive she is towards HG, demonstrates this throughout the named conversation. It is important to read all of her comments. She calls him an ox and makes obvious smears, such as the passive-aggressive “sheeple” dig directed at him, whilst simultaneously elevating Susan.
Yet Susan cannot imagine any explanation for my criticism of Annaamel other than that it must somehow be about Susan herself.
As a result, she repurposed my criticism of Annaamel into an attack upon herself, held a tear-jerking pity party, spiralled into a victim narrative, left the blog in distress, and has now returned to identify the supposed perpetrator of the injustice committed against her. In doing so, she repeats the same false claims and distortions in the same self-absorbed manner, seeking not to resolve confusion but to deepen it, not only for herself but for other readers as well, with the assistance of the same players.
Whether those distortion fields arise from narcissism or autism, the outward behaviour can often look remarkably similar. The diagnosis then becomes an excuse for the behaviour and a justification for being treated differently.
And people like Annaamel immediately seize upon such distortions when they appear, taking the opportunity to deepen them further while proclaiming:
“Look at us, we’re empaths!”
So far on this blog Jordy has suggested that Dani (a diagnosed autistic reader) likely does not have autism because Dani seems to keep up pretty well with all the discussions. https://narcsite.com/2025/11/07/erika-kirk-the-red-flags/#comment-466364 Allison, another reader with diagnosed autism, felt compelled to step in because she felt Jordy’s comment had crossed a line. https://narcsite.com/2025/11/07/erika-kirk-the-red-flags/#comment-466471 Dani, once a prolific poster, has posted much less since this informal assessment.
Susan, a reader also diagnosed as autistic has been reclassified here by Jordy as a narcissist rather than an autistic person. It’s worth noting that Susan has criticised Jordy. Anything Susan posts now will be analysed for narcissism by Jordy rather than looked at throught the lens of neurodivergence. A rather appalling way to target someone who may misundertand comments or social cues given that this is an aspect of autism itself and has probably been an ongoing issue and a source of distress for a person.
A Victor, who has also challenged Jordy, who has never been diagnosed as autistic, was identified by Jordy as a potential candidate for autism because she can get angry and jump to conclusions at times or misread comments. https://narcsite.com/2015/09/29/questioning-me/comment-page-21/#comment-461640
WiserNow, a reader who sometimes misreads comments, gets angry and jumps to conclusions has been firmly classified by Jordy as a narcissist, and her posts are deconstructed from this angle repeatedly. https://narcsite.com/2026/05/13/narcissistic-psychopath-why-i-relish-it/comment-page-1/#comment-471072
Despite Jordy’s having ‘met some’ people with autism in real life being her qualification for conducting assessments, readers here, including those who have had traumatic backgrounds involving exposure to narcissistic abuse, are periodically exposed to her informal diagnoses of their autistic status. She picks and chooses from behaviours she sees and interprets similar behaviours in different ways, often determined by who is being nice to her or who is not or who has recently not shown her adequate appreciation.
It strikes me that it takes a grandiose, haughty and arrogant sense of entitlement for a reader on a blog to subject other readers on that blog to a classification of autism or deny their professionally diagnosed autism. These assessments (of autistic or not) tend to be used as smears more than anything else.
This is someone trying to insult and dominate readers on the blog. Someone who is willing to cross boundaries. Someone who struggles to put themselves in others shoes to see how their comments would be felt or how such comments might be perceived by a wider readership.
I might now be called a woke, virtue signalling narcissist. Or maybe I will luck out and be given an autism diagnosis. But I doubt any assessment won’t be the correct one. I and a few others here are her worst nightmares because our empathic make up means we are internally compelled to hold her accountable.
Hello Susan
I am not at all surprised you were classified as an empath.
HG has not identified overlaps between narcissists and autistics. If anything, he’s highlighted that there isn’t an overlap. There are a few autistic participants on the blog (I can think of three aside from yourself but there may be more) and they have all been classified as empaths via HG’s detector.
As you’ve correctly identified, the commenter in this thread is also the one from the Second That Emotion thread last year. She’s helpfully added a new response to you here in case you forgot how unpleasant she is.
For me, one of the signs for me that you are a super empath is your capacity to fire up people like Jordy and her friend Elodie. You clearly recognise a problem when you see one.
Please don’t worry about Jordy’s perspective (or Elodie’s for that matter). Rest assured that there are still people here who can and will show you empathy and understanding.
@Annaamel,
What prevented you from posting the evidence, the link to that response, here? Everyone could then see for themselves what was actually said and draw their own conclusions.
If anyone is interested, I have the link and can share it here.
@Susan
Susan, you were not referred to as “that autistic”. You were referred to as a loyal reader who is autistic and who may experience difficulties seeing through Annaamel’s manipulations.
The full comment at Annaamel was:
“Annaamel, your repeated digs at HG and smearings of him to his loyal readers who are on top of that autistic and can’t see through what you’re doing, are disgusting neverending ridiculous nauseating displays of your stupidity. Grow the fuck up, lady.”
Sorry, Susan, but I think this illustrates my point about how easily misunderstandings can arise when people read a statement through a particular lens and attribute a meaning to it that was never intended.
I was really mad at Annaamel at the time, not because of that one instance alone, but because that instance was part of a repeated smear campaign against HG. That was the context in which the comment was written.
That does not excuse the wording I used, but it does explain why I reacted so strongly at the time.
As for Annaamel, I think her latest response speaks for itself.
Look at the evidence from that original comment and then compare it with how she responded to it here.
She showed no interest in clarifying the origin or context of the wording, despite the fact that the criticism was directed at her, not at you. Instead, she repurposed it for a different aim.
Nor does she know who Elodie is, what her comments were, or why the two of you clashed in the first place.
She cannot reference any response, comment, or evidence relating to Elodie, yet she is comfortable making assertions about her. She does not know what Elodie wrote, what her position was, or why the clash occurred. Yet she is willing to make statements about her regardless, painting her black.
By looking at the way she attempted to keep you in the dark about the intention of that original response, despite the criticism being directed at her and not at you, I think she hanged herself rather badly and, in doing so, reinforced my original point.
She demonstrated a willingness to repurpose the situation to suit her own narrative rather than clarify the actual context of what was said.
Given that you are autistic, I find that particularly telling, because my original point was that misunderstandings and misattributions can arise more easily in such circumstances. Instead of clarifying the matter, she is perfectly content to use the misunderstanding.
People can draw their own conclusions from that.
Hello Susan:
I don’t know you but if new to this blog. Hello and welcome! There are many different personalities here but many here to support you! Know that I am one! This blog is dedicated by the owner to help people get out of narcissistic and psychopath relationships and to educate. And there are many here that are happy to share our own experiences and support you through your journey. Autism is irrelevant. You are a human the same as me, putting one foot in front of the other on planet Earth:) I have RLS… who cares? Right? X
Hello Everyone:
No offense dear Susan! And again please join us! But we need to get away from the Jordy dispute and focus on something meaty. Ok you come up with it or consider this:
So I am divorced a year from a middle lesser. It’s over. I would have liked a positive ending after 12 years such as an end with blessings, goodwill and blessings but NO. I am the villain. As he said “ I make Mary Magdalen look like an angel”. lol. No, I did not sleep with every man in my orbit.
Anyway moving on as a single lady, I have not been ready. Only one I thought about who I met on a vacation…. But not ready. I have been 100% single. Life is peaceful. I like it! Then there was this one man who approached me online with the need for legal advice. Normal. He was attractive, rich developer and trucking company from NYC. He is worth online 1/2 billion to 100,000 million. Remember they evaluate companies. I double checked he is licensed owns a home in NYC and wealthy. BUT it’s been interesting. I told him right off I saw a woman in his photos and if married, don’t talk to me. He said I am not married and don’t really know you. lol. If I say I like Italian- would I like he replies would I like to go to Italy? I mentioned a past relationship of dating a man who rode Harleys. He sends me local routes here in California and motorcycles he would buy and offers to take me. I told him my ex husband was British and he gives me the town in England that he was born in England. He messages daily but it will go nowhere. I mean how many women would love to be with a single very rich man who wants to meet your dreams? And he is intelligent and charming and nice and…. Very attentive. But… I share this to demonstrate I see red flags everywhere. First, I have been with rich men, it has wonderful benefits, the downside is they are the employer and the boss whether empath, normal or narcissist or psychopath. Men who get to where they are, unless inherited-and I have loved and been with the rich trust fund kid too- different breed as their issue is they are insecure and their goal is to protect their money and thus their identity- but self made rich men no matter who they are … get there by making decisions, taking on risks and responsibilities and that’s what they know. So if empaths or normals, narcs or psychopaths…. dealing with a strong man has its challenges but an empath or normal …. they will respect you, nurture you and listen. Where with a narcissist or psychopath, nope ….unless it’s manipulation or fake. Easy to figure out in time. So I have hesitations with the strong rich men yet… men in general don’t want to be with a woman more successful than them. My own son shudders at the thought. Men were culturally raised to be protectors, nothing wrong with that. Now the victim narcs or some call them vulnerable look for the woman to mother them. My middle lesser narc was like this but not at first. They are little wounded boys who want a mommy. They are never successful. They can be handsome and charming and intelligent too but life long leeches.
Me? I just want a really authentic together man who has empathy. Not easy to find I think. I have loved a few. Never married one but I am done with marriage. I want a companion.
Any advice?
The other thread unrelated to the Jordy dispute would be my advice:
If with a narc or psychopath, yes HG is right… no contact or you let go, you grieve. But your heart is not a light switch you can turn off and on… as much as you want to. So here is a trick I learned. If with an abuser, throw him off track so as you leave it’s not so painful. So every woman or most has body issues. I do too. But I accept my extra middle age weight. But I would throw him off making him think I was fat was an issue. He used it towards the break up. Also he knows my love of God, so he used God against me telling me I was a sinner wanting out of the sanctity of marriage. But I knew he did not have a personal relationship with Christ so I sought my own counsel on the issue with my friends who are religious leaders as I did have a conflict but his opinion was less in weight. In short, if leaving him, don’t reveal vulnerabilities or weaknesses. And if with a psychopath, have a safety plan. Rely heavily on public community resources. They can help and consult with HG too.
Anyone else have input or experiences?
Last thing:
Ever notice that narcs and psychopaths come from damaged families. So you aren’t just dealing with your narc but their families? I could go on… anyone else deal with this?
I wrote my first meeting with my monster in law and anyone I tell it too says I should write a book. I mean her ex short term boyfriend was buried in the back yard! True! It’s a Halloween horror story. I literally almost died. One meeting. And that’s his mother?
HG: It would be a good topic. How did your mother treat your wife?
There was a 2019 Liverpool study did a study comparing psychology to science and concluded it was pure quackery.
I have had a bad experience with a psychologist in my 20s. He tried to sleep with me. He eventually lost his license because he was sleeping with his clients. Nice guy but dodgy. . I saw another psychologist who was to help my second marriage. He had to look up narcissism in his book. Sorry, HG is better!
Hi AA,
Its no longer my goal to hold Jordy accountable for her actions. I see no point. Its just wasted energy on my part.
I said something because I was upset that TS said I was holding onto this for 6 months. How could she possibly think I’d be receptive to her comments when she sides with the person who bullies me? I need to limit the toxicity in my life.
There’s a risk vs reward factor. With my narc husband, the reward of financial stability outweighs the risk of toxicity. So I deal with the toxicity from him. What’s the reward of dealing with bloggers who are toxic towards me? I can’t think of any. Whether they want to admit it or not, defending a bully is toxic. So I’ve decided to draw a line.
I didn’t want to ignore you, but I won’t be talking about this anymore.
Hi Leigh
“What’s the reward of dealing with bloggers who are toxic towards me? I can’t think of any. Whether they want to admit it or not, defending a bully is toxic. So I’ve decided to draw a line.”
I can understand you feel this way, Leigh. You’ve shown a lot of courage so far, Leigh. You’ve also received a lot of push back and which makes it much harder. I know how much you value the regular give and take and social exchanges on this blog. I can completely understand you wanting and needing to draw a line to protect yourself and your wellbeing.
“I said something because I was upset that TS said I was holding onto this for 6 months. How could she possibly think I’d be receptive to her comments when she sides with the person who bullies me? I need to limit the toxicity in my life.’
I recognise her comments will have been difficult to read.
‘I didn’t want to ignore you, but I won’t be talking about this anymore.’
For the record, I never mind if you ignore me. But I totally understand.
@Susan,
I’ve reread the “I Second That Emotion” thread and what took place after my comments (two comments to Annaamel and one comment to WC), and I need your assistance because I could not find the evidence for several of the claims you made.
I could not find where I referred to myself as an empath. In fact, I’m generally quite open about describing myself as having plenty of narcissistic traits, but that’s beside the point.
Nor could I find evidence that I attempted to chase you away from the blog.
What I did find was a substantial rewriting and repurposing of events which transformed a comment directed at Annaamel into a narrative in which you became the victim of an attack.
You claimed that I tried to chase you away from the blog, that I referred to myself as an empath, and that I somehow harassed you by referring to you as “that autistic”, whilst omitting the wider context of the exchange and the full wording of the comment itself.
Autism does remind me, in certain respects, of narcissism. Not because they are the same thing, but because self-absorption can become a significant feature. Looking at language through a highly personal lens, interpreting remarks as being about oneself when they were directed elsewhere, and then reconstructing events around that interpretation.
What I observed was a strong focus on how the event affected you, despite the fact that the comment in question was directed at somebody else.
You took offence at my observations regarding self-absorption, yet your response seems to reinforce the very point I was making.
My concern is that the diagnosis then becomes part of the explanation for why these distortions should be accepted without challenge. Meanwhile, people who were not present, or who have not reviewed the original comments, are left with a partial account of events and are asked to accept it as fact.
And once again, Annaamel appears perfectly content to make use of that misunderstanding for her own purposes.
People can review the thread themselves and draw their own conclusions.
https://narcsite.com/2025/08/02/i-second-that-emotion-27/#comment-461723
Hi Jordy,
I find the comment from Susan concerning.
My priority has always been trying to help new arrivals to the blog find the information they need. Part of that ties in to supporting them through the emotion and confusion that ensnarement creates. I remember how I felt when I first arrived on the blog, exceptionally low, fragile and I also remember those empaths who listened and offered support.
You are often very welcoming to new arrivals. You are able to handle the mixed emotions they display incredibly well, not put off by any lashing out, able to handle anger and frustration whilst understanding the role of Emotional Thinking and the impact it has.
When we see comments like Susan’s though, whilst reference to ‘that autistic’ is in my view a misinterpretation of what you wrote in your comment to Annaamel, it speaks to an honestly held general impression. When people arrive here, I think they need to see support from us all as a group, not prolonged conflict and point scoring obvious or otherwise. They certainly shouldn’t feel chased out. If they do, then that’s a fail in my view.
I’m all for debate and freedom of expression. Many empaths have been forced to hold their true opinions in, forced to lighten what they say, keep their honest opinions to themselves, don’t talk about this subject or that, be agreeable and they have been controlled and abused as a result. There is definitely a place for the person who delivers the uncomfortable truth or who holds to logic over emotion, I don’t dispute that. There’s a place for challenge, debate, conflict and expression of anger and frustration. I also don’t dispute that if people take offence at a comment they have the right to respond in a manner of their choosing. This blog in my view was never intended to be an echo chamber of agreeableness but, I do think above all else, new readers need to feel safe and supported in order to tell their stories and recover. If that opportunity is being put at risk through prolonged episodes of conflict then in my view, we need to introspect and re calibrate.
I would ask that you and in fact any long term readers who happen to read this, pause to consider our priorities. I’m not asking anyone to self moderate how they express themselves, but for me and I suspect for most of us, the priority surely has to be new arrivals to the blog. We got the information we needed, we used it to recover and move forward. This information works and we want others to access it. To do that readers need to feel comfortable enough to stay and preferably, participate. The beauty of the blog for me, was that I was able to access accurate information whilst being supported by others who shared their own experiences. For me, it is these two strands that make the blog so effective.
Can we at least agree that this should be a collective priority?
Hi TS,
When I’m repeatedly told that I’m playing victim and complaining by Jordy, it makes it difficult to share my story with newcomers. I share to empathize and show commonality.
Do you not realize that when Jordy victim shames me, she makes it difficult for others to share as well?
Josephina was appalled by the way she spoke to AV & I. She was a newcomer. She wanted to leave. I said to her it was imperative for her to stay. I suggested she could limit interacting with bloggers and just read and listen to Mr. Tudor’s material.
I do pause to consider my priorities and even with being victim shamed on a repeated basis, I’m still here trying to help others.
Leigh,
“Josephina was appalled by the way she spoke to AV and me. She was a newcomer. She wanted to leave.”
To that I can say that I was appalled by you and AV when I was a newcomer. I made one wrong comment and the two of you spent the next month whinging and seemingly hoping I would leave.
Now, either take a break, and come back when you’re divorced with a success story from which newcomers can draw inspiration…
Or stay, but stop whinging.
Hi Leigh,
“Do you not realize that when Jordy victim shames me, she makes it difficult for others to share as well?”
Good point. Great point really. Victim shaming anyone sets an expectation, that a person must be at a certain point of “recovery(?)” on the shamer’s time table. As we know, this is not how it works. People come here from all sorts of places and in any condition known to man. Arriving abused and battered, more often than not, and needing a place where all are safe. For some, any hint of unsafety will cause them to run far and fast, likely never to return. Which is the worst outcome since this is the best place for them to be, for the information they seek. For the information they need to make sense of what has happened to them and do any kind of putting the pieces of their life together.
Who is so arrogant as to impose their time frame on anyone else? Every single one of us is at some point in our own recovery, some feel pretty much recovered and others at various stages. Yet for those of us here for any period, a large part of it is helping the new person as we are able. Victim shaming does the opposite. And anyone who calls it “unflinching honest” instead of what it actually is, is not doing the newcomer any favors either. If abusive, uncontrolled and rampant “unflinching honesty” is what one can expect from fellow bloggers, and it’s not called out as abusive, uncontrolled and rampant, there is seemingly no safety here.
Because I am a long time subscriber, I know who is trustworthy. The most recent attack, on Susan, is just another example of one who is not.
Hi AV,
I agree. Everyone gets to choose what they’re going to do and how they’re going to address it, in their own time frame. Belittling someone because they haven’t done it according to their time frame is rude, not unflinchingly honest. Calling it unflinchingly honest is sugarcoating abusive behavior.
This latest attack from Jordy was unprovoked. I made a comment about Mr. Tudor,s article wondering if some might think the article was attempt at false bravado to cover up a vulnerability. Then she came out of nowhere on the attack. But I’m the one who has to check myself. I don’t think so.
Hi Leigh,
I agree, you are extremely welcoming to new arrivals and I understand why you share your own experiences as you do. I think that is a very positive thing.
I actually think that most long term readers overall are very welcoming and supportive of new arrivals to the blog, including those involved in the current bout of conflict.
I addressed a specific concern directly with Jordy and she responded.
My additional and broader comment was simply to highlight that despite often honest motivations, conflict itself if prolonged (six months for the height of this one currently) can still impact newer arrivals to the blog. I see that as an unintended consequence.
@Leigh,
You mistake Josephina for Aria.
Aria and Josephina are two readers with whom I have had far more interaction than you ever will, and whom I assisted and encouraged on many more occasions than you did.
I took the time to read their responses, understand where they were coming from, and communicate with them in a manner they found insightful, entertaining, and interesting. I can provide links which easily demonstrate that.
Josephina also took a step towards consultation because I encouraged her to do so despite her belief that her English was not good enough. Later, she thanked me for encouraging her to do it, not you.
The same applies to Aria. She wanted to leave the blog for reasons entirely different from the version you are now recounting. I had a lengthy exchange with her about those reasons, explaining what I thought might be happening and encouraging her.
Somewhere during those exchanges, you happened to join in and offered your own thoughts on why she should stay.
It is true that there was an instance where Josephina addressed me and I expressed my disgust with you and AVictor. However, the reasons for that reaction were tied to your own requests and conduct at the time, which you have conveniently omitted from your retelling.
Back then, you also oscillated between presenting yourself as the victim and acting as the provocateur, making statements such as:
“I actually hope you attack me now. It’ll show people your true colours.”
Stop rewriting history, and stop relying on pity plays and false accusations in order to paint yourself as the victim.
“When I’m repeatedly told that I’m playing victim and complaining by Jordy, it makes it difficult to share my story with newcomers. I share to empathize and show commonality.”
In my opinion, it is not particularly helpful for newcomers to discover that you are a long-term reader of seven years and remain entangled with a narcissist whom you are not eager to leave, whilst reframing your reasons as valid and making excuses for the distortions created by your own emotional thinking, all whilst presenting yourself as having significant insight into narcissistic dynamics and how to navigate them.
I agree that you seek to help newcomers and assist them by sharing links, information, and your experiences.
What I find unhelpful, however, is the creation of an atmosphere where self-pitying exchanges take place and where the narcissist is assigned the full burden of responsibility for a situation in which you continue to exercise your own choice to remain.
This includes provocative behaviour which, by your own account, you direct at the narcissist and which predictably results in challenge fuel and corresponding reactions, dynamics you are now very well educated about, yet repeatedly choose to ignore.
You understand how challenge fuel works. You understand the consequences of provoking a narcissist. You understand the likely responses. Yet those aspects are often omitted when responsibility for the ongoing dynamic is discussed.
That is one of the reasons I find your position difficult to reconcile with the level of knowledge and insight you claim to possess.
What inspiration or strength can a newcomer draw from that? Very little, in my view.
I have never criticised newcomers for sharing their stories. Usually they are seeking help on how to escape those dynamics, or they are already past them. Those who recount their escape stories are generally no longer consumed by them to the extent that they feel compelled to retell them repeatedly. They share, find validation, learn, move forward, and either leave or remain engaged with the subject matter in a broader sense.
Many of them also quietly wonder why you remain in a relationship with a narcissist after all this time. They are simply less direct than I am in asking the question.
When that question is raised, however, you appear to retreat into a familiar victim-and-perpetrator narrative, whilst continuing to share complaints about the ongoing situation in which you remain.
To me, there is a significant difference between newcomers sharing their stories whilst seeking escape, and a seasoned reader who does not seek escape and, when challenged about it, offers repeated justifications for a recurring narrative of victimhood and diminished personal responsibility.
@AVictor
Your goldfish logic could not be more damaging to someone seeking your assistance in escaping a narcissist.
Once you know, you go. You get out and you stay out.
That is the time frame.
As soon as possible.
It is not:
Try to recover whilst still in a war zone, amidst the battle.
It is:
Leave the war zone first.
Recover in a safe zone.
Scenario:
Your daughter is in an abusive relationship. What do you tell her?
a) “Take your time to recover, darling, whilst you’re still in it.”
b) “Run!”
“Because I am a long time subscriber, I know who is trustworthy.”
Whoopi-fucking-doo.
Now people know who they can count on.
TS,
This newest friction isn’t by my choice. Again, Jordy came for me. I made the choice to ignore her comments. Other bloggers made the choice to comment on them and I didn’t want to ignore those bloggers.
Trust me, I would very much prefer not be pulled into this nonsense.
Hi Leigh,
You brought up Josephina and I was reminded of a comment from her from September last year.
While she was definitely shocked and disappointed at the verbal assault she saw meted out to blog readers – https://narcsite.com/2025/10/30/forever-wrong-upon-the-throne-10/#comment-465682 – I think the reason she largely abandoned the blog was because she recognised a familiar pattern. For months afterwards I kept coming back to her comment and it definitely helped me put more pieces of the puzzle together.
Here it is: https://narcsite.com/2025/08/16/restraining-an-appliance/#comment-462276
It was taken (unsurprisingly) as a compliment but it was anything but.
‘To that I can say that I was appalled by you and AV when I was a newcomer. I made one wrong comment…’
A newcomer in June ’23?
https://narcsite.com/2022/07/18/the-narcissists-desiderata-6/
Hi Leigh, AVictor, annaamel, and everyone else on the blog.
The truth is, I didn’t leave the blog because of any particular person or group of people. I left because being here increases my emotional thinking, and that’s simply not good for me. Every new article from HG makes me want to engage, and sometimes it feels as though I’m literally interacting with a narcissist. As a result, I can’t seem to let go of the whole situation.
I usually come back whenever I find myself confused by yet another situation involving a narcissist. There are many things here that genuinely help me in the moment, but that’s a separate topic.
annaamel, regarding the familiar pattern. Your comments are certainly a bit mean at times and often come with a little jab, but they’re also so funny that it’s impossible for me to be offended. I genuinely laugh out loud when I read them.
That said, you were right. (And again, this wasn’t the reason I left the blog—you can always choose not to interact with someone if you don’t want to.) There really was a familiar pattern. Jordyguin appears to be a woman, but the way she communicated reminded me very much of my ex. The resemblance was striking. But my relationship with my ex was unbearable. It’s possible that I reacted to that familiar pattern. However, the Josephina I am today finds that kind of communication off-putting in the long run. So, for me, that interaction simply ran its course.
What genuinely puzzles me is this: Leigh and AVictor, you’ve both said that you were no longer going to interact with Jordyguin, yet you still continue to do so.
For me, once I’ve decided not to communicate with someone, I have no difficulty sticking to that decision—whether it’s on a blog or in real life. That’s why I don’t quite understand it. Especially on a blog, where it’s actually very easy to avoid interacting with someone. Real life is much more complicated.
Leigh and AVictor, I hope you’re both doing well. Thank you so much for the support you gave me in the past. I truly appreciate it.
P.S. Josephina,
You may also wish to listen to HG’s series on the Empath and Psychopathic Traits (Superficial Charm) available on his channel Narcissism and Psychopathy with HG Tudor.
The fact that I was able to read you and engage with you in a way you found invigorating should demonstrate that I was simply able to adapt to your personality with ease, though not for the purposes a pure psychopath would.
(To help your memory: https://narcsite.com/2025/10/13/i-just-cant-get-enough-too/#comment-465208)
I sought to help you and you thanked me, and you complimented me on numerous occasions.
The reason for that was twofold. On the one hand, I was able to mirror aspects of your personality at that time (you changed now). On the other, I also brought something genuine of myself to our exchanges by actually seeing you, looking for a solution, and trying to help you with the reason you came here in the first place.
That was after it became apparent to me that you were not a teenage girl in distress, but an interesting individual who, on the one hand, tends to project an exaggerated emotional perspective onto others, yet who is also a deep thinker and researcher.
In the end, you did find some answers. Not because of me, but because of HG’s work, consultation, all the participants who interacted with you in one way or another, and your own efforts to understand.
To portray me now in the way you have is neither accurate nor helpful if your genuine aim is to understand other people, your patients, or even yourself.
Truthseeker,
Agreed 🤝
I will rein myself in
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/cfP8EBSIeew
Hi Jordy,
That video cracked me up. It’s the music as well, that music should be the background for most of my life right now I think!
Thank you for considering my concerns.
Love the video! Jesus throws the knife away and smiles. Not the plan it’s about love!
Also I said I thought you were an empath! Glad you took the detector!
Curious why you waited so long but glad you did!!!!!
No Jordy, I did not make mistake. You did.
Here’s Josephina’s comment.
https://narcsite.com/2025/10/30/forever-wrong-upon-the-throne-10/#comment-465682
“No Jordy, I did not make mistake. You did. Here’s Josephina’s comment.”
No.
Where, exactly, does she say what you are accusing me of?
She doesn’t.
That is a poor attempt to reinterpret her words in a way that fits your own agenda.
HG,
I have often wondered about the relationship between Neil Gaiman and Amanda Palmer. It’s become quite a sordid situation. Among other things, I would love to listen an analysis of each of them. I think it’s a case of Gaiman being ensnared by a Greater narcissist.
We all patiently await more on yourself, of course, through the various publications you have said are in the works.
I was wondering if you do still intend to write something on narcissism for children or, possibly teenagers?
Thank you for your suggestions WC.
Hi HG,
I would like further information about the following.
1. The Addiction. Specifically how it drives the emotions of the empath post disengagement / escape. Others I have supported experience enduring sadness. One described himself as similar to an alcoholic, choosing not to return to the narcissist whilst underneath it all still wanting to. Another has been out for a year and still feels sadness and loss. She accepts / believes that only time will resolve it. I experienced sadness too for a long time after escape, which makes me think I’m missing something. I couldn’t easily beat my own sadness, therefore perhaps I can’t adequately help with theirs. I want to know what I’m missing. Why do some empaths go through sadness, whereas others want revenge, feel anger etc? I know it isn’t down to schools, all three examples are of different lead schools, so what is the driver here?
2. Psychopathy. Ideally, a framework of different psychopath schools similar to your framework of narcissist schools, I imagine cadres would be similar to narcissist cadres.
3. Psychopathy. More on how you experience your own psychopathy. Life events, snapshots to illustrate.
4. You as a narcissistic psychopath. Drivers, which of the Prime aims and Necessary Triad take precedent in different circumstances and why ? Under what circumstances would narcissism be driving your thoughts and behaviour as opposed to your psychopathy? I feel like I could estimate the reasoning of a narcissist and of a pure psychopath but put the two together and the thinking becomes far less predictable.
5. Psychopathy. Anything. Haha!
6. I’d like you to write about the dinner party scenario you introduced.
7. Targeting. I’d like to see more targeting examples. Why women in the Asylum were targeted, why some were viewed as secondary sources without being promoted to primary, when is that decision made, how does that decision impact seduction?
8. I’d like to know how your interactions with the good doctors ended. Were there other memorable episodes that stand out to you? How do you view them both now in the context of your enhanced awareness? Were there benefits that you can now point to that enhanced your own well-being, stability, quality of life?
9. Anna’s suggestion about the blog and its impact on you.
10. Future you. What do you want for your future? How do you plan to acquire the stimulation provided by what you do professionally when you decide to step down from that role? How do you envisage your life changing? Have you noticed changes to your own temperament that might be occurring naturally now that you have a greater understanding of yourself and others?
11. I’d like to understand more about how the different empathic schools form.
12. I’d like a backpack of articles that you believe are the core articles we should give to people that come to us for help. The starting line up / foundation if you like. I kind of have my own back pack but I wonder if I’m missing something that you might include.
Thank you for your consideration.
Thank you for the suggestions TS, just a small list eh?!
Concise is my middle name after all HG!
TS: you made my wish list! Excellent requests! I hope HG provides…:)
Contagious,
Haha, did I? I hope so too.
Hi TS,
You weren’t very clear. Did you want to learn about Psychopathy? Lol!
Leigh,
See I tried really hard there. I voiced what I needed. And what do you go and do?! Hmm? Hmm?! 😉
TS,
Lol! I couldn’t resist!
TS,
I like the idea of the addiction. That’s a big part of my request about the third party hoovers issued to Swift’s exs. I think it’s a really different kind of hoover in a different than normal environment. It’s a public hoover. And I have seen such different reactions. Some that I think are the addiction…others not.
More wanting the dinner party! YES!! Please, sir. Please… *eager pleading look* We’re hooked with the promise.
I also love the future plans question. Super curious.
Hi Dani,
I really like your addition about the psychological techniques introduced by the therapists. That would be very interesting to know. I wonder if HG has surreptitiously passed some of them on to us already, or taken a technique and improved upon it?
The mirror technique?! Similar idea, different script!
Xx
Hi Truthseeker!
I wondered if some had been passed on already as well. And I wonder what ways Mr. Tudor found to thwart them when applied against him.
Imagine it…HG sitting there with steepled fingers behind a fine desk. Everything has a place, and everything is in its place. A fine suit in black or deep charcoal with a white shirt and a lovely tie held in place by a Death Star tie clip (every image should have a tinge of whimsy). The painted black appliance tries to explain as icy blue eyes drill a hole through appliance’s skull. The brilliant mind percolates with a dozen ideas for exacting future retribution as the appliance begs forgiveness.
*Wanders off, pondering the image*
I’d never wear a tie clip.
Hahaha!
Good to know, Sir. Tie clip deleted…
I shall alter my mental image to include…a Death Star mug on the desk holding steaming hot tea to keep the vocal chords of the Darth Tudor lubricated. The sun shines through the window behind him, casting a ethereal golden glow around the darkness…I hope this is better. I need whimsy…
Dani –
Great visuals.
And this so cracked me up:
“I hope this is better. I need whimsy…”
Dani,
nooooo,
never a white shirt!!
Go back to start 😉
Well, Z…if I must start again…
I imagine some wayward appliance approaching a deliciously tan man on the beach. He’s wearing only tangerine board shorts as he soaks up the sun. His sharp eyes spot a fin in the shallows…A brunette lady wearing a Princess Leia slave costume bathing suit sits beside him holding a drink tray and a bowl of fresh berries and pineapple. He pets her thigh and she giggles. The failed appliance stutters…trying to explain himself…A long elegant finger points to the waves…and the appliance begins a long march…as a guitar is played…the Jaws theme song.
Hello truthseeker6157,
HG has touched on the first part of your number 10 a little in the most recent livestream from November 2024 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fB9QGYi9vts, about 1 hour and 11 minutes in.
Hi Anna,
Thank you for posting the link and finding the relevant section for me. That’s really kind, I appreciate it. 🙂
You are welcome, Truthseeker6157, no problem.
Dear HG,
It would be great if you cover the following in the future:
1. Character traits. Can they change over time or/and due to abuse ? Like for example, love devotee – can several heartbreaks reduce it to a minimum level? Or anger?
2. Empath creation. Especially, the part about the environment. Does empath also either “slowly cooked” or in instance or born that way? Can an empath be born in a family without an abuse?
3. Narc Island. If I may suggest, just as an idea for men’s one, to do an island with a mix of narcs and psycopaths and play it like in mafia game. You appoint two or one killers among them in your mind. Each night after some interaction between them, someone dies and voters have to guess who is it. If correctly, throw this man into the ocean. If not, murders continues. Though maybe YT won’t like a video with killing or throwing into the ocean some political leaders. So probably no politicians to be included then.
4. 20 things HG loves/hates now or 20 more things HG wants you to know. An update would be interesting.
5. Ensnared series. 3rd part. I really love the intro and the ending music.
This series is very special to me, because of the circumstances under which I (binge) listened to it. I was in a small guest room, upstairs, lying in the bed, in the dark, watching the snow heavily falling behind the window against a light from a street lamp. I made a decision to file a divorce after holidays are over and already thought throw the steps I need to take to move out. I was just waiting. At that moment, I already absolutely didn’t care about his present silent treatments, he was engaged in, downstairs, pretty much all the time. I wasn’t chasing him asking what is wrong or please talk to me.
And my door was closed. Really CLOSED. Such a simple phrase – the door is closed. What does it mean? It means that you don’t want anyone to enter – simple as that, isn’t it? Who has never experienced that, wouldn’t understand. In my home, I did try to close/lock the doors, but it meant nothing for him. I cloudn’t hide, just be in my world, without an invasion. He would do things that would really creep me out. Due to his background and certain training, he was able to move very silently, like in a stealth mode. It was difficult for me to notice his movement. He often scares me off by jumping next to me unexpectedly from a corner or smth. Or I would be in our bedroom, with just bedside light, reading smth. The door is closed!! We had an armchair, diagonal from me, in the corner. So I continued to read, convinced I’m alone in the room. And then I would accidentally lift my eyes and in this almost dark corner, I would see him sitting in the armchair, just staring at me with a dead face. This was so creepy. It would freak me out. How long he was here? 20 mins, 30 ? It would be one, two seconds pause, while he continues to stare and then he would begin to laugh and say he was just joking, and that I should have seen my face. My objection, that I didnt find this fucking funny at all was dismissed. Or it could be, that he somehow gets under the blanket in the bed, probably while I went to a bathroom, and I wouldn’t notice the bump. And then like in some fucking “Grudge” movie, he would touch my leg, causing me to leap out from the bed, screaming. Again he would simply laugh. He would film me in the shower often, though I LOCKED the door, this hand with the phone. Fucking stop doing that. Squeaking sound of a baby monitor cameras following me.
Though I told him at the beginning how I hate such unexpeted things/surprises. Maybe others don’t and find this amusing too, but I hate it. How my abuser stalked me, so when I was outside, the world would seem to be behind a thick noise-muffled glass, people are laughing, walking, talking, doing things and me would just try to get from point A to point B thinking to myself, did he finally leave me alone or not. And then after several days had passed of not hearing anything from him, he would suddenly jump in front of me smiling, out of nowhere on the street. At the end, it almost drove me to commit a suicide, as the only way to escape him.
Now ofc, I understand, why my ex husband was doing it. He is a narcissist. But at the time, I couldn’t really get it how he says he loves me and keeps doing smth I hate so much.
So therefore, when I was listening to Ensnared Series, with a closed door, alone in a guest room, without him, absolutely determined to leave , it was a special state of my mind, like I’m coming back to life. I wanted to dig out myself from this grave. And since I figured that he is probably a midranger, I knew from HG’s videos, he wouldn’t try to physically prevent me from leaving and packing my things. I still wasn’t sure, but it turned out to be the case, luckily.
Now it’s such a pleasure not to sit in the car after work for an hour, just because I didnt want to go home. Plus my phone now remains in an exact spot where I left it, not mysteriously moving to another place.
Sorry, for so long message, I’ve just wanted to empathize how I would like to hear the continuation of an ensnared series and I hope Ian would escape Ashley, like me.
Thank you for your thoughts Arya and in particular the personal circumstances surrounding Ensnared.
Hi Arya,
It doesn’t matter what anyone else thinks. You told your ex narc that you didn’t like to be surprised like that. He used that information against you, trashed your boundaries and went ahead repeatedly scaring you anyway.
I’m glad you found the strength to leave when you did. I’m thankful that Ensnared gave you the final push to do what had to be done. I hope that there is another series of Ensnared too. Next time you can curl up and listen in peace.
Xx
Ary, wow! The circumstances surrounding your departure… scary.
Arya,
What an asshole! I’m glad you got away!
Wow! That is horrible. So glad you’re away Arya. ❤️
I also wanted to second empathy creation as a topic, HG. Thank you.
Arya: you are my hero! Well done! So happy you escaped!
Dear HG, thank you for the immense clarity and knowledge you share through your work. Your articles have been invaluable for me and for so many others who are trying to understand and overcome narcissistic abuse. I was wondering if you might consider completing some series that have remained unfinished for years, which many of us readers would find extremely valuable:
The Narcissistic Path – the third part addressing the periods concerning escape and discard.
Exposure during Escape – the scenario of exposure following discard.
But What If He Is There Too? – Part Two – scenarios when escaped the narcissist. Part Three, focusing on what can be done to protect oneself in these scenarios.
The Blast From the Past Hoover – explaining what the narcissist seeks, what they think during this type of hoover, and the different forms it may take.
The Deathbed Narcissist – continuing with The Upper Lesser Type B, the LMR, the MMR (Type A and B), and the UMR.
These topics feel very important and would be greatly appreciated by many of us if you could return to them.
Thank you for considering this.
Thank you for the suggestions.
The Deathbed Narcissist complete set has been finished as a book and just requires editing.
This is exciting!
HG, is the “editing” part awaiting an epilogue of Matrinarc’s ‘time’ when it comes?
Ha ha, you could very well think that.
“The Deathbed Narcissist complete set”
Can’t wait!
Thank you for giving us this opportunity! I would very much like to find out more about the impact of all this blog/online interaction on you. What changes, if any, have you noticed in yourself over the course of these ten years? We know it has made you more effective, but has it given you anything beyond that to share so much of your inner life with us and learn about ours in return?
Duly noted.
Seeing an example of how the blog has made you more effective would be fascinating as well, as long as you do not feel it would have a negative impact on people’s willingness to share.
I love that suggestion, Anna Plyance!
Hi AP,
I think this is a fantastic idea too! I hope Mr. Tudor agrees!
Love this suggestion AP!
Hello HG,
Congrats my friend on your wonderful achievement of reaching a huge milestone of 10 years on your blog! You do amazing work and I am very honored to be your YouTube friend and that we have done several collaborations together. Your work and knowledge are impeccable and you are in a class all your own.
I would love to have you continue your Into the Woods Series and your Educating HG series as both of these are left on a cliff hanger.
All the best,
Michelle
Royal Daily Tea
Thank you Michelle. Both of those will be appearing in books which I am working on.
I can’t wait for all these new books, Mr. Tudor! I’m very excited!
Same Leigh! Super excited to read them!
Mr. Tudor–
I think I have already said…but I will say again…as I like giving you fuel and control from this distance.
What I would like to see more of:
I want cliffhangers resolved for:
“If you go into the woods…” — You left David stranded up a tree and Clare trapped in your icy gaze.
“When This One’s Wife met HG” — You mention getting back at the hornet’s fan later for his behaviour…and we didn’t get the front row seat to your thoughts during a speech given by She-of-the-Beige-and-Banal. Regarding this series…you also mentioned something about the Ultra attending the Wedding of Ginge and Whinge…Details, sir, details. (holds up hands imploringly and gazes into the shadowy chair where Mr. Tudor sits with shining hopeful eyes)
“Educating HG” — I’m sure you seduced all the young women in that house…and if they found out about it…it is worth knowing. You’ve also hinted at other stories–like getting even with secondary school teachers that I would like more of.
“Restraining an Appliance” — Please don’t leave it there. There are way too many unanswered questions…and I have guesses about what happened and how it happened.
New Stories about HG:
When Cordon (A**hole) met HG — I want to know…so badly…so so much…what that annoying narcissist did to earn such scorn from the Ultra.
A story with you and another self-aware narcissistic psychopath interacting would be incredible, the higher the stakes the better–especially if you give them a proper slap so they know their place.
If you could juxtapose two stories with the same IPPS where one time a negative behaviour was directed at someone (like a scathing comment to waiter who brought the wrong order) and it benefited her (she got what she ordered as she ordered it) as much as you (you controlled the waiter) and then an instance where that behaviour is redirected at her (she made you a dinner you liked the week before when she was painted white but you claim to hate it that day because she’s now painted black). Preferably with her seeing the parallel between her previous benefit from that behaviour when not on the receiving end. I don’t know if something like that has ever happened, and the example may be a bad one…but it’s all I can think of that’s close to what I mean and it’s not really perfect. What impact does it have on victims when they have benefited from what could be seen as bad behaviours from the narcissist when they are in the victim’s place, if any?
Anything and everything where you are part of the story.
Tudor Scopes generally for YouTube. I like the mini ones for historical figures as well as the full length ones. I would enjoy a full length for Diana, Princess of Wales. And I think many listeners would also enjoy that. (I would especially love to hear what you thought when you met her…as you mentioned that you had…but you were young and you didn’t know her. What did young HG think of the famous magnet empath, the most loved royal of my lifetime in the world?) Please complete Tom Hardy. Please, sir.
If you could cover something about how third party hoovers for relationships long over affect victims–like how people repeatedly ask Swift’s exs about her. How do those third party hoovers affect her victims when they happen years later and how does that victim’s classification of empath, normal, etc. also cause difficulty for them or others they know? A narcissist/narcissistic person might snap back and make it stop more quickly. An empath might not want to do that. We’ve got some of their responses in audio and/or visual. (Swift is really the best example I know of this particular hoover. I don’t think she’s orchestrating the majority of it.) The 22 second phone call breakup hang-up pout she had…and her ex’s response was finally something like…”Yeah…but she never said who hung up on whom.” To me Swift is a unique situation where it is more likely to happen–Swift is world famous and most hoovers are probably not coming from people in her inner circle/her lieutenants/coterie.
I really want to know more about what creates the empath schools and cadres. What similarities of story are shared (if any) by contagion empaths? What similarities by Supers? What keeps the standard empath “Standard”? You’ve described Standard as the cake of all empaths. I’ve come to think of the majority schools as being more heavily iced cakes…and whatever minority schools a majority contagion, super, or codependent has…I think of as piped roses or sprinkles. What drives the triggers for different behaviour triggers for quad hybrids…if someone is carrier/martyr/geyser/saviour…what triggers each cadre? How can we learn our triggers to get out of a rut where our behaviour is causing us trouble?
The pie chart of majority schools of empath–standard, super, codependent, contagion, hybrid. Majority Cadre…and if a bar graph or another chart could be done with percentage total with that cadre. The percentages of those with magnet, with martyr, etc. no matter how small. And maybe comparison of amounts, insignificant, significant, etc…that might all take too long…I’d still be interested. But whatever you think would be most efficient. I’m curious.
Those are my major wishes right now. Thank you so much for the opportunity to ask for what we’re wanting more of.
Thank you for the comprehensive list. Dani.
Thank you for answering. I’m glad to provide big lists…when invited.
Also there was a story where you mentioned attending a dinner party and how you interacted with the attendees…I’m really interested in that.
I’m really grateful that I found your work. It’s a source of reassurance to be able to come here and read some articles when I am thinking about contacting someone who treated me poorly. It’s just the reminder I need sometimes…emotional thinking is tough to deal with…but I believe with your work…it gets easier.
Hi Dani,
I like reading your comments, a lot of times you have ideas I didn’t think about and I often find myself wanting the same answers as you. Xx
Thank you, Rebecca.
Hi Dani, regarding the video you mentioned…..yes, I’d like to see the follow up to that story. It was the quiet one that piqued me.
hi Asp Amp! I’m just so excited to read more of whatever Mr. Tudor shares…
Looking forward to upcoming publications about Educating HG and such. I really want them in audio…there’s nothing like listening to HG tell his story.
Hi Dani, sorry I missed your reply sooner…..
video format serves as an audio and visual (whether it includes moving picture or not). I do enjoy the video analyses. I found HG’s story about being drunk at 4 years old rather amusing. Knowing HG series revealed quite a lot and I’m glad he shared that so that people can understand more about him as a person and why he’s doing his work.
Oh yes, Dani, The Analysis! It would be fantastic to see that continued, and I know of several people who would be absolutely thrilled as well.
HI AP,
What is this video that you guys are talking about? It sort of sounds familiar but I can’t put my finger on it.
Can you put a link to it here?
The video is called “The Analysis”.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOmdg4eHQ1k
(No need to thank me, HG’s fingers must be close to overheating and setting fire to things all on their own with the deluge of comments he has been moderating for the anniversary!)
Hello HG:
I concur the origins of empaths and narcissist and their schools and cadres is my top choice
But I personally cannot get enough of your tudorscopes as it is like homework, I take what I have learned and do my own analysis. It keeps me on my toes! Anyone you do is interesting but I previously gave you a list of famous women in history. Anyway I have bought every book, most everything in the knowledge vault and merchandise…. I still think you should sell your art and develop a spray called narc repellent lol.
Always a loyal fan!
Thank you Contagious.
Dani,
Its so nice to see your name pop up! You’ve been quiet lately and I was hoping you were ok.
“A story with you and another self-aware narcissistic psychopath interacting would be incredible, the higher the stakes the better–especially if you give them a proper slap so they know their place.” – I would love to hear about that too!
Hi Leigh,
I’m not sure if there has ever Bern a major interaction with another self aware narcissistic psychopath that can be shared. But an empath can ask…when invited by the Ultra.
The creation of various schools and cadres of both narcissists and empaths, how they come to be.
More about what it is in the empath that makes them accept, and sometimes seem to seek out, the narcissist. The addiction fleshed out a bit, maybe in regard to the different schools and cadres. I feel like our addiction is more to that underlying need than to the narcissist sometimes.
How you’re doing, where things are at in relation to your life, has Shieldmaiden been replaced, are you considering retiring from your career any time soon, things like that. Not trying to pry of course, but you are interesting.
I will love anything new that you do, as I have enjoyed and appreciate what you have always done.
Thank you A Victor, duly noted.
Oh Mr. Tudor,
I’d like to know if Shieldmaiden has been replaced too. How long was her golden period & devaluation? If you have disengaged from her, how long was she the IPPS? Was she the longest?
Sorry Leigh & AV,
I don’t know why my post fell within the Shieldmaiden conversation – I swear I thought scrolled down to the main comment box.
But I second that: an update on the Shieldmaiden would be welcome.
No problem WC, yours is a great request!
That’s ok, WC! Its always nice to see your comments pop up!
HG,
Although this may fall under the more general topic of the formation of the schools & cadres of narcissists, I wonder about the specific and often glaring differences between two narcissists. For example, TOW vs Camilla, in the context of the Royal Family – what is the difference that caused TOW to be unable to harness the residual benefits etc., of being part of the RF and instead, flouncing off to Canada and later the US? Whereas, Camilla, as an LMRN and a less capable narcissist, was able to successfully be at Charles’ side and fulfill her role dutifully – and even improve her image with the British people and the world at large?
Is it that Camilla is more intelligent, or is it down to the fact that she was already part of British culture to begin with? Was TOW’s inability to gracefully accept a role in the RF due to her upbringing, always getting what she wanted and being daddy’s little princess? Is she extra-entitled, as a narcissist? Is that even a thing – do some narcissists have a bigger sense of entitlement than average?
These are some things I wonder about…
I have made a note WC.
Thank-you HG.
Ooh interesting question WC. I’m really intrigued to know this too.
Thank-you Alexis Smith & AV…
Actually, HG’s video on TOW, ‘The Making of the Little Princess’ – just posted today -provides some context and interesting pieces of the puzzle.
Thank-you, HG.
Love these questions WC. Look forward to any answer HG may give to them.
Good question about Shieldmaiden, AV!
Aw, it’s just me being nosy. I have thought many times of her and hoped she’s okay. But I understand that it is personal for HG and that he may not wish to share.
LOL, AV! Me too! I just want to be nosy! I hope Mr. Tudor indulges my nosiness, but its totally understandable if he doesn’t.
If you please, HG….
Tom Hardy. What is he?
Thank you.
I think you’re a very good listener, Mr. Tudor.
There are 3 that I’d like you to finish. The book about The Creature, the Educating HG series & your Into the Woods series.
Thank you.
Thank you Leigh, I have made a note.
Dear HG,
I hope you finish and publish your book, LITTLE BOY LOST, i think was the title? Anyway, I would love for you to finish it. Xx❤️❤️
Rebecca,
I second that!
Mr. Tudor,
May I add to my list? I’d like you to finish “Little Boy Lost” too.
Dear HG,
I would like you to expand on:
How empaths are made, how psychopaths are made, how narcissistic psychopaths are made.
What are the different Schools and Cadres of the Psychopath? I know there are different degrees of psychpathy from growing up with my psychpath brother. Please expand on the degrees of psychopathy.
Please expand on the psychopathic traits in empaths. I found that very enlightening and want to dig further into it.
Please expand on your schools and cadres of the different empaths.
Thank you, HG! Xx❤️❤️
Thank you Rebecca, I have made a note.
Thank you, HG! I’m eager and ready to learn more from you! I’m still hungry for more knowledge and I’m happy I came to your garden of many fruits! Xx❤️❤️
Thank you, HG for all your work and knowledge, and for your replies to my questions and comments! Xx❤️❤️
I love your suggestions, Rebecca. Especially expanding on psychopathic traits in empaths.
Thank you Dani, I liked your suggestions too. Xx
I didn’t know this was a thing.. interested to learn more!
I find the idea of the creation of the creature kind of hard to grasp (I may not have read enough here yet tho) so this in relation to narcissists would be helpful too.