A Very Royal Narcissist – Part 9



The ongoing situation involving the Duke and Duchess of Sussex provides a very useful opportunity to explain what is really happening, as opposed to the mistaken observations being made in the media and to enable people to make sense of previously bewildering behaviours occurring in their lives.

Part 9 addresses further revelations relating to the Canadian Prime Minister, the situation with Kate Middleton the Duchess of Cambridge, Disney, the rift with the royal family and the planned talks to seek resolution of the current situation.

The media reports that talks will be taking place at Sandringham tomorrow to deal with what has been dubbed Megxit. Prince Harry has been left in the UK by his wife to have discussions with the Royal Family and she has returned to Canada under the auspices of caring for Archie. Were Miss Markle a non-narcissist and thus one would view her behaviours through the prism of not being a narcissist, then she would exhibit emotional empathy and most likely would not have left Archie alone to begin with, but if she had, her return would be based on caring for him.

She thinks this is what she is doing, however, owing to her narcissism, she is asserting control over various individuals, principally Prince Harry. She is exhibiting A Lack of Accountability by not being present at the talks and A Sense of Entitlement. More about the forthcoming talks below, but first, some comment on other information which has arisen and has been reported in the media.

It is important before moving on with the latest update and analysis to preface this with two important points. Firstly, by stating that everything that is reported may not be necessarily accurate and one should always bear that in mind. However, what one is able to do is to explain what such behaviour, if accurate, amounts to in relation to the concept of narcissism. If what has been reported did not occur, then it can be discounted. Most of the times the mainstream media reports the activity correctly and therefore this enables us to explain what this behaviour means through the prism of narcissism.

Secondly, and I have this point before and I shall repeat it for the Hard of Understanding. This analysis is about narcissism and how to understand what is occurring so people realise why certain actions have been taken and why certain things have been said and done. It is nothing to do with the subject´s race or gender. Narcissists come in all sizes, colours, all genders, and all sexual orientations. If you make the mistake of thinking this analysis (and it is an analysis not an attack) is based on race and/or gender please have a read of these articles about white male narcissists A Very Murderous Narcissist (1)  A Very Hollywood Narcissist , A Very Deflecting Narcissist , A Very POTUS Narcissist , A Very POTUS Narcissist – Threat of Impeachment , A Very Murderous Narcissist (2).

With that stated, let us update the situation further.

1. News Justin!

It has been reported that the Prime Minister of Canada, Justin Trudeau was apparently told about the Sussexes plan to move to Canada before anybody else, which includes Prince Harry´s own family. Such a step demonstrates

  • Belittlement – suggesting Prince Harry´s family should not know first about the stated intention because they are not important enough to know
  • The Assertion of Control – “I am putting you in your place and showing that I am the controller not the controlled.”
  • Sense of Entitlement – “I do what I want, I neither have regard for politeness, doing the right thing or protocol.”
  • Lack of Emotional Empathy – “I am unable to concern myself with how it makes you feel to learn that we told someone else about our proposals before you, so I did as I did.”
  • Triangulation – “I am involving someone else in this in order to provoke you and by provoking you, I control you.”

Remember, these are all instinctive responses governed by the narcissism. Think about your own situation, if you were considering moving to another country would you place an ad in the paper, splash it over social media and then tell the police chief in the town in the country you were moving to that you were moving there ahead of telling your family and friends. No, you would not. Why? Because you have emotional empathy and you do not have an instinctive manipulative response designed to assert control.

2. Disney Beckons

Filmed footage from an onlooker has surfaced showing Prince Harry, at an attendance of the Lion King (which also took him away from his charitable obligations as explained in A Very Royal Narcissist 2 is seen asking an executive with Disney about the potential for Miss Markle to undertake voice over work for Disney, in effect touting for work for her. Such behaviour demonstrates the hold that is exerted over Prince Harry in that he will, clouded by his own addiction to the narcissist (The Foundation of the Addiction to the Narcissist)   do anything to try to please and appease Miss Markle, including such steps as  crassly seeking a job opportunity on her behalf. Do not fall for thinking this is just the mistake of a not so clever chap, that is part of the equation, but his failure to see how this looks (see also the merchandising steps taken with regard to trademarking the Sussex “brand”) demonstrates that he is held in a cloud of emotional thinking, whereby he cannot see logically what is happening to him and how this is affecting his behaviour.

Other people will see it, those close to him (although of course that closeness is being eroded by the common narcissistic manipulation of Isolation) however trying to point this out to him will fail because his logic has been clouded through the control of the narcissist over him.

These somewhat crass and opportunistic behaviours are a manifestation of the effect of the narcissism on Prince Harry. If you have been ensnared by a narcissist, doubtless when you look back at what happened you will identify behaviour and ask yourself “What on earth came over me?”. This is what is also happening with Prince Harry and is the impact of the narcissists control.

3. Water Has Become Thicker Than Blood

Prince Harry has chosen what his wife wants (manipulated into thinking that it is what he wants also) and has chosen, as it stands, a six month split between the UK and Canada. Now, people invariably spend more time with the person they are in love with and naturally see less of parents, siblings and extended family but they do not wrench away with them in a dramatic fashion, unless there is the influence of a narcissist at work. The apparent basis for this departure is Facade Management as explained in earlier  A Very Royal Narcissist 7 and  A Very Royal Narcissist 8 .

The speed at which it has happened, (The Need To Assert Control), the manner in which it has happened (Sense of Entitlement and Salami Slicing) and the repercussions for Prince Harry (which he is unable to see) are in accordance with the behaviour of the narcissist. Narcissists must have complete control of their environments and that includes the people in them and it is a repeated and standard form of manipulation to Isolate the Intimate Partner Primary Source (spouse, partner, girlfriend, boyfriend) of the narcissist from any influences that may threaten that control, from the narcissist´s alternate perspective. Therefore, the narcissist will pull the IPPS away from parents, siblings and other members of the family, they will divide a person from their friends. This is done not only to remove what are seen as interfering elements from affecting control, but also by making the IPPS easier to control through

a. Depriving them of any support network , and

b. Making the victim more heavily reliant on the narcissist as their (supposed) sole person of support.

This will be done unconsciously by the narcissist through such actions as

  • Smearing the family members (“They are trying to control you, I am just trying to help you see that.”)
  • Exaggeration of Threat (“They do not want you to be happy, I do, that is why they see me as a threat.)
  • Projection (see the above comment).
  • Pity Play (“Your family do not like me.” “This country has it in for me and I have tried so hard, you know, tried the stiff upper lip, but they just do not like me.”)
  • Guilt (“If you loved me, you would move for me.”)
  • Triangulation (“If we stay, it will end up the same for me as it was for your mother and you do not want that to happen do you?”)
  • Use of The Victim´s Weaknesses Against Them (see the above comment)
  • Promised Gain (“If we live there, we can do our own thing and both be happy, you want that for us don’t you?”

Remember, the narcissist will do this through unconscious manipulations. The narcissist genuinely believes that they are doing the right thing and cannot see, because of their narcissism, that they are actually being manipulative.

Such manipulations will have been used in isolating Prince Harry from his father, brother, grandparents, friends and extended family (save those who are viewed as supportive and therefore no threat to the control) and thus choosing water over blood.

As Prince William stated, reported in The Sunday Times,

“I have put my arm around my brother all our lives and I cannot do that anymore. We’re separate entities.”

4. No Sister-In-Law Love

Reports also state that Meghan Markle and Kate Middleton have not spoken to one another in six months. Previous A Very Royal Narcissist articles have identified the friction between the two Duchesses. It is evident that Miss Markle, has exhibited envy towards Kate Middleton (given her status as wife to the future king) and this envy threatens her control over Kate who is a Non Intimate Secondary Source in Miss Markle´s Fuel matrix. In order to assert control, Miss Markle has previously Triangulated and Mirrored The Duchess of Cambridge. This will have had temporary success and then Miss Markle has given an Absent Silent Treatment to the Duchess of Cambridge by not speaking to her. Where the Duchess has come back into Miss Markle´s sphere of influence, she has maintained this silence in order to continue to assert control. The Duchess may well have tried to resolve issues by speaking with Miss Markle and/or have decided not to try further because it has proven fruitless in resolving matters and thus gives up. Such a situation may then be portrayed by the narcissist as part of a Pity Play and also Projection  as being on the receiving end of a silent treatment from the non-narcissist, when in effect it is not.

5. The Sandringham Summit

It is reported that a summit will take place on Monday at Sandringham for the purposes of putting a series of scenarios and proposals to Prince Harry. It is understood that Miss Markle will be joining the summit by telephone.

Four main items are rumoured to be on the agenda

  • Whether the Sussexes will keep their HRH titles
  • The amount of royal duties they are expected to perform
  • How they will be funded
  • Rules regarding potential commercial ventures

Various scenarios will most likely be provided to Prince Harry for the purposes of allowing him to understand the ramifications of the decision that has been made in an effort to look at alternatives. It is unlikely that the Sussexes will have thought through the implications of the decision to “step back” from Royal duties. This is because the focus of Miss Markle is a need for unconscious control in that moment and not be concerned with collateral consequences. When these collateral consequences are pointed out which would include

  • The upset, dismay and hurt of Prince Harry´s family
  • The impact on his obligations as a member of the Royal Family
  • Potential financial ramifications in respect of the difficulty of being self-funded
  • Potential financial ramifications with regard to tax

No matter how logically these are presented, they will be seen, from Miss Markle´s narcissistic perspective as Challenge Fuel, which is one of The Key Interactions With The Narcissist . The Challenge Fuel means that what is said and explained presents as a challenge to The Sense of Entitlement, Grandiosity and Lack of Accountability which all adds up to a Threat to Control. Control is the central need of the narcissist and the actions of the Royal Family at the summit will serve to threaten Miss Markle´s need for control. Prince Harry will either be blinded by his emotional thinking and just see what is being proposed as unfair, rather than looking at it logically or, more likely, he will recognise that there is sense in what is being proposed but will find himself caught between the reasonable suggestions of his family and the demands of his wife and in the manner that an ensnared individual who is in devaluation responds, he will seek to keep the peace with his wife and do what she wants. This may well mean that there is no deal and Prince Harry proceeds in accordance with Meghan Markle´s demand.

If some form of compromise is reached, it is important to recognise this will only be because it suits the narcissist and that is how the apparent “compromise” when actually it is not, is arrived at. To understand more about the narcissists mindset in that regard, do have regard to Why The Arguments Are Never Resolved.

The outcomes from the summit will either be –

  • The proposals of the Royal Family are deemed too much of a threat to the need for control and the Sussexes proceed, governed by Miss Markle´s need for control in the already decided manner , or
  • There is a deal which is only agreed because it serves the need for control. It is likely this will involve money (albeit kept quiet) so as to maintain the appearance (Facade Management) of financial appearance whilst maintaining links and ties with the Royal Family. The Sussexes appear to agree a compromise, but it is not and it is only agreed to because it corresponds with what Miss Markle requires , or
  • Prince Harry makes a stand against the control he is being subjected to, in which case he can expect a savage response from his wife. This outcome is highly unlikely given the level of control and devaluation Prince Harry is currently subjected to. His actions and comments are indicative of an individual who has been brainwashed into believing that his wife is the one who is right alongside a diminishing degree of will to put up any form of resistance and in such instances, it is invariably the narcissist who wins out and the victim is steadily isolated from the family and friends.

In the short term, Miss Markle will exert control in some form and in her “world” she will be winning. Of course, there is much more that is yet to happen with this ongoing saga of a Very Royal Narcissist.

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137 thoughts on “A Very Royal Narcissist – Part 9

  1. PrincessSuperEmpath says:

    Dearest HG: A breathtaking read: literally. I could hardly breathe, as I read this analysis. I do believe some secret money to the couple (as you suggest is a possibility), that they could spend according to their own discretion, equal/comparable to what Meghan could make with endorsements, even with a few stipulations thrown in, (stipulations that are not distasteful to Meghan) that she could spend as she sees fit, without having to answer for this spending, could calm things down, a bit. She may have a deep fear of financial stress and the fear of being controlled by the money of others, and she may have had this fear, even before this marriage. And this fear, regarding money, could be a strong stressor for her.

  2. Kathleen says:

    excellent HG! I’m looking forward to more installments!
    The “crass job pitch” totally struck home with me.
    I worked really hard to find ways to ‘normalize’ my ex narc- in a sense “selling her” regarding professional contact and otherwise.
    It never worked.
    People read their own tea leaves. And usually one-on-one, if they’re not a shallow narcissist themselves seeking something back from the narc- they will sense something off about the narc and nothing will pan out. They’ll be left feeling like… “What was all that about?”

    Has this been sent to WP, NYT—I saw WashPost post some malarkey about the media pushing MM out – i think on Twitter today.
    So anyone who hates the media and the monarchy- will side with MM. I really never paid much attention to the whole tragedy with Diana… Other than the media was chasing her trying to take pictures all decided to have a race car getaway.
    HG. I think you need to have an action plan for “ H”. We see the problem but how can we help H? What are his realistic next steps?

    1. HG Tudor says:

      Thank you Kathleen and no, it has not been sent to the NYT.

  3. Peach says:

    Fascinating work on MM, HG! A few questions more than comments…

    With MM in Canada and PH in the UK right now, how does that impact her ability to control him? Does she likely feel that her work in isolating him from his family is already done, so he’s unlikely to be influenced by them anymore?

    I read today that MM has no plans to live in the UK again, but will return for visits. Surely even a narcissist would see how the optics of that are bad, with the UK funding the remodeling of a home she lived in for mere months? In addition, what about the charities that she seemed to care so deeply about? She has up and left them, too. Bad optics all around, but I guess she doesn’t see it?

    I have thought that a divorce is imminent and MM will replace her prince in no time, but I’m now questioning that. If they get to keep their titles, I think she might keep him around in order to milk the Sussex Royal moniker. A divorce, especially a nasty one, would strip the title from her, correct?

    Finally, I saw that a “friend” of MM’s said this today – “And as far as the rest of the royal family is concerned, Meghan feels the good she and Harry can create with their own fortune far outweighs any hurt feelings.” Ha! Spoken like a true narcissist!

    1. HG Tudor says:

      Hello Peach, thank you for your kind comments. The answers lie in here

  4. Witch says:

    @not so sad
    I’ve come across a few black people who have agreed with me that Meghan is a wrongun or a narcissist and are pretty disgusted at her cutting off her father whom she praised extensively before she was engaged to Harry. And more who have liked my comments, so hang in there. I’ve been called an airhead and accused of being jealous of Meghan. Keep voicing your view which you are entitled to. If people can state boldly that the queen murdered Diana, we can say Meghan is a narcissist.

  5. Violetta says:

    The comment about not abandoning the baby was a reply to Ifeoma egbuna. Nothing is posting to the right thread for me today!

  6. Violetta says:

    That’s why she has the baby. He may not come back for her, but he couldn’t abandon the baby.

    Once he’s on the same continent as MM, she will try to undo any sanity the BRF have succeeded in restoring to him.

  7. PrincessSuperEmpath says:

    Renarde, but it is good to see every angle of a story in order to counter it. Like, Discovery, in law. It is good to see what cards that the opposite side are holding. The MM fairy tale that you posted was interesting to read. wow. And very few could handle this complex and explosive topic and this particular couple with the aplomb of HG Tudor. Many people are going hysterical over this couple.

    Remember, every since I have been on Narciste, for about a year now, I kept mentioning that I removed myself from the 2 Facebook Meghan M sites, that I had joined, because people were being banned for absolutely anything and everything, with constant warnings from the moderators, and I never posted once, I said on some of my posts here on Narcsiite, as my witness: And, when I noticed that I was afraid to post anything at all, regarding MM, I quit! I removed myself from those sites. I honestly was afraid of spelling her name wrong or something and being banned, because I do not always check for spellings, because of time and importance constraints.

    However, Renarde, I did not at all foresee how strong the hysteria would become, over this couple, in just over a year, from that point.

  8. Ifeoma egbuna says:

    I don’t know what the Queen could have done different. The key is Harry. A leopard cannot change its spots, so in isolation, I hope he comes to his senses.

  9. Alexissmith2016 says:

    Yay! The Queen is not an N! Very happy about this! You’ve said she’s not an empath so judging by this my guess would be on the normal end of empathic because she does not get embroiled in it all.

  10. Susan Rupert says:

    It appears MM has battled The Queen and won. What a high she must be on…

    1. Violetta says:

      “appears” being the key word. HM is elderly and may be tired of this nonsense, but she’s been dealing with narcs for a very long time. Her mother dealt with Wallis, both parents and Churchill stood up to Hitler, she has two narc sons, God knows how many narc PMs…..

      MM likes to think of herself as a strong, feminist woman, but this monarch Elizabeth, like the first monarch Elizabeth, could eat her for breakfast and wouldn’t need any feminist ideology to support her.

  11. Supernova DE says:

    What a shit show.

    Love that this is giving you a platform though HG.

    Just saw that the queen “supports” this (reported after the summit). Perhaps she’s of the mind to just get them out of her hair, and her country, and attempt to move on.
    Can’t wait for the next installment!

    1. HG Tudor says:

      Thank you SDE. Yes, it is, but it is an excellent platform and the traffic to the blog has raced upwards because people are interested in understanding this topic more. The crossover between what they are reading about and what they have experienced has been an intended and effective outcome. It has enhanced the legacy that is being created here and I appreciate my readers assistance in circulating this work.

  12. WhoCares says:


    “2. In some instances how it has helped them realise what has been going on in their own situation and how grateful they are to have made that connection.”

    That is so good to hear, and worth the backlash.

    1. HG Tudor says:


  13. Renarde says:

    Just read this. Crossed my FB feed today. This is being openly shared. The author does not want to be credited.


    One day a woman gave up her lucrative career that she loved, worked hard for and excelled at as well as earning millions to be with the man that she loves.

    She made the decision, which I am positive was extremely emotional, to pack up her entire life, kiss her loved ones good bye and moved to an entirely different country to be with the man she loves.

    She said goodbye to her single mother who raised her on her own and life as she knew it to be with the man she loves.

    She gave up any ounce of privacy she had once enjoyed and took on the role gracefully and without hesitation to be with the man she loves.

    She is constantly scrutinised, bullied and vilified by the media and is the constant target of relentless racism. The tabloid headlines are vile and sickening to read but the people revel in that kind of hatred toward her but she still shows up, she still smiles for the cameras and she never waivers in her support for her husband. She endures to be with the man she loves.

    She chose to carry the baby that both her and her husband wanted, suffering through morning sickness, extreme hormonal changes, aches and pains and all the added risks of pregnancy when under extreme pressure.

    She was called too fat, too old and too pretentious for protectively holding her growing belly as she grew a human being inside of her, she knew she would no longer be in control of her own body all the while being called a liar who was faking her pregnancy. All to be with the man she loves.

    She went through postpartum anxiety and NEARLY broke down in a public interview, she was not offered love and support from the public instead she was called a drama queen!

    Accused of just being a great actor capable of crocodile tears yet, only after years of having her acting abilities scrutinised, but she continued to be the pillar of strength in the public eye and raising her baby boy, to be with the man she loves.

    The world never bat an eyelid over everything she gave up. The entire world chewed her up, spat her out and then demanded more.

    One day a man said he would not be bullied into playing a game that killed his beloved mum. He and his wife made the choice to put theirs and their childs mental health and well-being first.

    That grown man ,who is very capable of making his own choices, decided to give up his career to be with the woman he loves.

    And the entire world went mad…

    Photo credit: Vogue Australia
    Original post* ChristieLee – Mum. That’s a bad word

    Edited: This post may only be shared from this page and in it’s entirety with full attribution*

    What fresh hell is this????

    Sadly, very sadly the comments are largely full of praise for Sparkles.

    I’ve never known anything like this. The Throne is now rocking.

  14. Renarde says:

    Correct. It’s a very VERY clever insign.

  15. Renarde says:

    Wiser now

    Waste if time to put Randy, Epstein, Weinstein and BOTH Maxwells under the TudorScope.

    We know what they are. Irrelevant. (In the kindest possible way.)

  16. Renarde says:


    Dark lady. But accurate.

  17. Renarde says:


    Thank you! The elusive part 5!

    1. HG Tudor says:

      You are welcome, but it has always been there.

      1. Renarde says:

        Couldnt find it. I will tweet.

        Still not been banned! I am picking up followers though.

  18. Not So Sad. says:

    I’m spitting feathers here ! HG .. So Frustrated !

    I’ve been attacked on Twitter . Called a racist, a liar. a troll an idiot .
    Posted on a FB forum for “Actual ” Survivors of Narcissism and accused of much the same .
    I’m not qualified to give an assessment without meeting her. Blah bloody Blah blah Blah.
    Well if any of them think by attacking me I’m going to STOP posting, they’re sadly mistaken .
    It’s only making me more determined !

    N. B I~M Officially *****FIVE Years Free Today because of everything you taught me ! YES.. Thank you so much …. NNS x

    1. HG Tudor says:

      Hello NSS, that determination has been engendered through your transformation. As I explained to someone else, there will be far more people reading who do not speak up but will be grateful for my article and you sharing it. I have received many emails from new people who have written to express

      1. Their agreement with the analysis , and
      2. In some instances how it has helped them realise what has been going on in their own situation and how grateful they are to have made that connection.

      Keep that at the forefront of your mind also when dealing with the narcissists and the confused.

      1. Not So Sad. says:

        Thank you HG ..
        Here we GO again .
        Ding Ding . Round three .
        This time Piers Morgan

  19. Witch says:

    Init! She’s smiling and he looks stressed!

  20. Em says:

    HG I see in the press that the rift is because the wills and Kate were not friendly towards MM. blame shifting?
    Next it will be because they are jealous of her and PH.
    Reality is they can see through her and know she is not right for Harry.

    1. Violetta says:


      “Next it will be because they are jealous of her and PH”

      But ..but..her numbers are catching up! Sign-ups to her accounts are skyrocketing! (Mostly to post negative comments, but she deletes those.)

      Isn’t it all about the “Likes”?

      Primogeniture–what’s that?

  21. erwin says:

    Btw,the picture tells a thousand words lol

  22. erwin says:

    What i dont understand is;do we know more then the royal family and all of its advisers and screening procedures ? I mean i have been screened for lesser jobs then ‘Duchess of Sussex’

  23. Violetta says:

    I’m guessing that if, God forbid, something happened to the Cambridges, Megs would come back to the UK fast enough, doing the Australian crawl across the Atlantic if no planes would take her, and towing PH & Archie in her wake.

  24. WiserNow says:

    Narcissists wreak havoc on the lives of those around them. I feel for Harry. In photos, his demeanour has changed. He looks more reserved and deep in thought than he used to, even when comparing his demeanour to just before and after the wedding.

    1. Em says:

      WN – I agree. He looks withdrawn and preoccupied- all that gaslighting and brain fog.

      1. WiserNow says:

        Yes, he does Em. He is probably confused and trying to make sense of all the cognitive dissonance.

        Everyone’s experience is different, but I can’t help feeling sad thinking about his mental state. All these technical terms like cognitive dissonance, gaslighting, PTSD, etc – they explain the process, but they don’t convey the loss of innocent enthusiasm, genuine care, and willingness to love and trust that the empathic person experiences because of a being with a narc. Pure empathy is beautiful but narcs change it forever when they get their grubby fingerprints all over it.

        1. Em says:

          Oh that’s such a good description WN.
          It’s just helped me a bit. I can remember being innocently enthusiastic.
          I will never have that again but at least I now know that I wasn’t just stupid and it was ok to be like that. I was used. Hope I can get somewhere near to trusting someone enough to love again soon.

          1. Violetta says:

            Harry may not be an Einstein, but I was in grad school when I met Wanna-be Playuh Narc, and he’d made it through a couple of terms of college before flunking out. I still didn’t know what I was dealing with.

  25. Apricot Showers says:

    Great insight, HG. I honestly question if there’s an Archie at all for Harry to return to. The numerous trips overseas leaving him alone while he’s an infant, the pregnancy shrouded in mystery with a wiggling bump, unclear details around his birth … him morphing into a different baby every time we see him. I can’t understand why anyone, even a narcissist, would lie about that …

  26. Sniglet says:

    Hello HG Tudor. Nice article. It is incredible that the Sussexes discussed this issue with the Canadian PM before the RF. Very disrespectful to HM. Markel will stand to lose if there is one or more narcissists with the upper hand at the summit. Perhaps the Queen will put and end to Markel’s games – checkmate (or checkmerkel).

    1. HG Tudor says:

      Thank you.

  27. contanten says:

    First i thought “Never will MM restrain from being at the meeting. She will be there with Skype or something”. And it appears she will. No other spouses will obviously be there. And that can of course be justified by that it is a matter that she is highly involved in (HAHA).

    I just browsed through their website. It is very professional, very filled with typical corporate bullshit by an expensive PR-company. (I used to work at one – filled with narcissists). What strikes me is the picture of her and the Q. There could not be more of “me, me, me, me”. “Look at Me and Betty chatting!”

    My goodness! Spot on.

    Next episode, please, turn the sound on!

  28. Susan Rupert says:

    Due to my own experience, and apparent prejudice, I seem to only pick up on male narcs (Trump, Spacey, etc). I have spent the evening reading through the MM/H evaluations and am stunned. Excellent job, H.G. You’ve opened my eyes once again.

    1. HG Tudor says:

      Thank you Susan.

  29. surfinsybil says:

    Great job HG! I love how you are using this situation to get the word out to more people. Your guidance allows people to see narcissism in a third party, which is not as threatening to them. Then, your in depth and captivating writing will “hook them” and they will continue to follow your work. Before they know it, they will begin to identify narcissists in their lives. And, with you being “THE” source to learn how to handle that new awareness, they will join the rest of us in becoming Tutorites at Tudor University!

    I also loved how you put related links to your other work into this article so prominently. That makes it so much easier for the newbies here to compile more of your info and make sense of narcissism.

    I’ve been working on ways to really get your info out to as many as possible. I’ll let you know about any success that I have on that front.

    Sending my love and fuel to you HG.

    1. HG Tudor says:

      Thank you SFB and it is appreciated that you have been looking at ways to spread awareness of my work.

  30. WiserNow says:


    When I saw you describe Harry’s job-hunting opportunity for Meghan as “crass”, it made me think that crassness is on a spectrum.

    What’s more crass? Putting your hand up for a voice-over job in a Disney movie? Or counting a sex-trafficking pedophile and his ‘madam’ girlfriend as your ‘friends’ who you would still keep as friends even though the pedophile has been charged and jailed, and has now mysteriously ‘suicided’?

    It would be great if Prince Andrew (or Epstein or G. Maxwell) was place under the “TudorScope”. Think of all the young girls and women who suffered at the hands of the pedophile Jeffrey Epstein and the predator Ghislain Maxwell who would be helped by it.

      1. WiserNow says:

        Thank you for the link HG.

        I’m sorry, I missed that article about Prince Andrew when you first posted it. That must have been while I was away from narcsite and not checking the articles on a regular basis.

        I will read that one now. The RF certainly has its fair share of narcs.

        1. HG Tudor says:

          Away from narcsite, what heresy is this?!

          1. WiserNow says:

            I know HG! It’s unforgivable. Lead me to the dungeon!

  31. WiserNow says:

    Another very informative article HG. Thank you for the latest information.

    Would you consider doing “A Very Narcissist” article on Prince Andrew? I think that would be very interesting and helpful as well, seeing that he’s been in the news a lot lately.

    1. HG Tudor says:

      Thank you.

      Do see this https://narcsite.com/2019/11/19/a-very-royal-narcissist-part-5/
      from November last year.

      1. WiserNow says:

        Thanks HG. My apologies – I must have missed the article about Prince Andrew when you first posted it. I will catch up now.

        1. HG Tudor says:

          No problem, WN.

  32. Kelly says:

    Before the marriage the royal family most likely smelled a rat. They will probably go on with the I told you so conversation.

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  34. Susan says:

    The media is a powerful tool she is using effectively to her benefit. I read a suggestion that if this meeting doesn’t go the way she wants, she could do another pity party interview. It seems like this would backfire, but in the short term, how much power does this give her?

  35. KimH says:

    Love your articles! Examples are so well dissected. I can’t help but admire MM’s ability. A small, petite American out maneuvering a long standing monarch!

    Yes, many public and influential people are narc, but I’ve not witnessed this much public damage so blatantly executed. I thought Obama was a wonderfully charismatic narc. Trump is an annoying, yet results oriented narc. But MM cannot foresee her future damage caused by her current behaviors. She is a very talented manipulator. So good that it will come crashing down on her because the public loved PH first. MM star power will diminish with age but people will always love PH. Poor baby son will have more emotional damage than PH.

    It hurts me to see MM hurting so many people—especially her son—and MM will never care or even notice she has hurt people. This doesn’t even count the citizens of Britain or the monarchy itself.

    I’m looking forward to your future articles!

    1. HG Tudor says:

      Good observations

    2. Michelle says:

      There will always be people who see MM as the victim here and will worship the ground she walks on. She will pretend these are the only people in the universe and go her merry way.

  36. Abw Flying says:

    I hope they will be punished for defying the Queen. No mercy Her Majesty!

    1. Michelle says:

      I hope the Queen makes them choose between their titles and status and their independence. Otherwise MM will just milk both for all she can get.

      1. Abw Flying says:

        The Queen should stripe them off their titles and Prince Charles should cut off the funding from Duchy of Cornwall estate.
        The Queen will of course do what’s best for the Monarchy.

  37. Chihuahuamum says:

    Another great update article!!
    I also think kate was a big threat bc she was quite close to harry and of course needed to be isolated from him to gain control. I also think she was onto meghan early and was painted black and untrustworthy.
    In regards to justin trudeau (ugh) he is good friends with obama and michelle and so are the PH and meghan so the three couples most likely talk and support one another so i can see how the cat got let out of the bag early on. Its not right at all especially seeing PH has a royal duty and needs to respect the feelings of his family but of course hes been brainwashed and is struggling with his own demons mainly the loss of his mother and his parents nasty divorce.
    Im not familiar with the royal family and how it works but i do hope if he loses his title he can get it back when his marriage dissolves. Its sad to watch this road wreck in progress. I also hope will and harrys relationship grows stronger and they restablish their closeness once this joke of a marriage is over!

  38. Geminimom says:

    Why isn’t there paparazzi photos of her traveling? I think she declares she goes one way and shoots off in the other direction. And still no photos of her at all. Is she on a yacht? Hidden.

  39. SB says:

    So refreshing to see that someone has called out MM for what she is. She definitely left Archie in Canada to use as leverage against PH, he will do just about anything probably to get back to him. He won’t want to lose Archie like he did his Mom, MM is a vile and evil creature.

  40. Michelle says:

    I have to imagine that the Queen is one of the most intimidating people a person could possibly meet, not because of her personality per se but because of the gravity and respect around her. She is THE icon of the UK, a representative of an institution hundreds of years in the making. To be able to walk up to such a person and make demands must take a colossal ego. I keep imagining what it would be like to actually DO such a thing and I imagine myself being intimidated to the point I could barely speak. It seems like, to a normal person anyway, the rituals and mystique surrounding the royal family would inspire respect and humility.

    After the spats over the wedding tiara and the smell of St. George’s Chapel, I really wondered if Harry had gotten himself in a mess. I really think Harry was predisposed to think that his family was unfair and that the press was evil after what happened to Diana, and Meghan is exploiting those two beliefs to the fullest.

    1. Violetta says:


      I’ve done medieval reenactments. We show our organizational royalty more respect than Meghan has shown the BRF.

  41. Tris says:

    HG, if MM is pregnant (hypothetical) and gives birth in Canada, will the child then be a Canadian citizen giving her further control or does the Queen retain custody from a generational Royal precedent? Could this possibly be another reason for the swift move? Thank you!

  42. Bibi says:

    Everyone with Twitter Share! Share! Share! (I will share on FB.)

    1. HG Tudor says:

      Thank you

    2. MB says:

      Shared, shared, and shared some more Bibi!

      1. HG Tudor says:

        Well done MB, HG approves.

        1. MB says:

          It’s actually kinda fun to search for relevant articles and comment and paste the link.

          1. lisk says:

            You know your stuff, MB!

          2. MB says:

            Thank you Lisk

    3. Violetta says:


      Maclean’s has an article called “Meghan Markle’s Twitter Bot network,” which may explain HG’s suspension as well as some of the nasty attacks Tudorites have received after tweeting:


  43. Skipapaki says:

    One of the things that has allowed me clarity in my encounters with narcs is that there is a pattern of behavior. Patterns don’t lie and here is where you absolutely shine HG and that is why i read you voraciously. You spread out the pattern and you explain it so well! Feeling grateful!

    1. HG Tudor says:

      Exactly. It’s the pattern and knowing what it is and I translate for you. I’m pleased my work has proven so useful.

      1. Skipapaki says:

        It is baffling though that even people who have suffered intimately from narcs, parents and significant others) cannot see the pattern even if spread out for them. I posted your MM part 8 in a support group for narc victims when the Sussexes came up. About 50% of them chewed me alive. I was called sexist and racist. And the same people whine about the treatment they receive from the narcs in their lives. SMH

        1. HG Tudor says:

          But there will be far more people who read it, applied it, learned something and said nothing. Thank you for sharing.

          1. Skipapaki says:

            You know? You just showed me how my ET took charge! Gracias senor!

          2. HG Tudor says:

            It’s a win.

          3. lisk says:

            It’s always a win with HG.

      2. Susan says:

        You said it ski, Patterns. That is what weaves all this info together for me bc as H G has point out before, narcissists come from every walk of life and gender, etc, but the patterns he explains are very similar.

  44. Lorelei says:

    HG—as absolutely out of it as I was I never in a million years would have left any of my children at this age for any length of time a distance away. Maybe because of breastfeeding it was more a consideration but it’s highly unusual for a mother to do so. It can happen or be appropriate due to extenuating circumstances that travel is necessary, but it’s rare and causes emotional distress for normal women. I have friends that won’t do social things because they work full time and have young children. (They will bring their kids over, or more commonly I accompany them as my house is no longer child proof) It caused me a lot of upset the first time I had to leave for a week and at that time my youngest was entering school age. A main (the main—the profound) grip my ex had was the threat of me not having my children every day. It was the biggest link for my decline at a time when my energy was high enough to actually leave vs. stay.
    I also believe that part of her desire to conference rather than be present is because she’s a coward and it’s easier than being physically present.

    1. Dolores Haze says:

      Totally, totally agree with you! There’s no way in hell a loving, empathic mom would leave her eight-month (!) old baby on the other side of the pond (!!) with a friend, not even a family member (!!!) to fly somewhere for a couple of days (!!!!) in order to royally screw the baby’s father’s family (!!!!!). Only Ms Sweaty Armpits, the Very Royal Narcissist is able to pull it off and still pretend to care for her child.

      Poor Archie. He’s more screwed than Prince Harry, at least the latter had a handful of relatively Narc-free years, felt parental love and learnt empathy from some family members. Archie doesn’t have a shot in hell. His mother even denied him a title to begin with, and he was entitled to one. Not only is she manipulating Harry, she’s cutting off Archie’s family ties once and for all. He’s not even a year old and is already a persona non grata by proxy, both at Markles’ and Windsors’. Talk about “doing what’s best” for her child.

      1. Lorelei says:

        Correct Dolores. A normal human mother does not leave a child a 7-8 hour flight away in order to entertain bullshit. Her shenanigans superseded a more typical approach to parenting. Normal mothers do anything possible to not leave infants—it’s biology at the very least. Gives a great illustration how strong the disorder functions on auto pilot for sure.

  45. horseyak says:

    I’m waiting for Her Majesty to summon Martin Short, the Royal Psychiatrist, to Give Megan a Royal tongue – lashing in person or by phone. Camilla And /or Charles would work too. They made Diana’s life miserable. Why can’t they do the same for the entitled little twat?

  46. Leigh says:

    Another excellent installment. I’ve been sharing far and wide.
    I do have a question; could leaving Archie behind in Canada also be considered threat of loss? Not only for Harry, but for the extended family (& all of GB for that matter, as they love the royal children).
    Also, it’s reported that Meghan will be on teleconference during this “summit”; I have to admit I wasn’t surprised as I doubted that she’d allow Harry to make a decision. What I wouldn’t give to be a fly on the way to witness the manipulations during that call.
    Will keep checking your site for updates, as well as sharing so “normals” can learn about narcissism. Your doing the Lord’s work, here HG!

    1. HG Tudor says:

      Thank you Leigh.

      Yes, it is Threatened Loss also.

  47. SaraZ says:

    Has anyone else noticed that the emblem on the SussexRoyal Instagram account is an “M” with a Crown on top? (Possibly that also is/will be their trademarked emblem?)

    If you stare at it long enough and smoke some herbals, and if the moon is full, and you jump up and down on one foot for long enough to jog your brains, you can also, maybe, see an “H.”

    The “M” blares out, right at first glance.

    1. PrincessSuperEmpath says:


    2. Violetta says:


      You forgot the part where you use the words a wandering gypsy told you by the light of the full moon…”Hocus pocus ala-kazaam, walla”…the trick, she is done. [Dispose of fragmented audience member’s fragmented watch]

      [Re: the non-PC usage: Bugs Bunny routine, and they didn’t use “Roma” in those days]

  48. AK says:

    Having had the absolute misfortune of working with a narcissist for two years, I find your blog absolutely fascinating. So much if what is going on here is similar to what the ex colleague I had got up to both personally and professionally, including moving countries.

    Thankfully, the ex colleague was finally dispatched from the business but not before wreaking havoc amongst all of the staff and employer. If I hadn’t been in the midst of it, I never would have believed someone could be capable of such behaviour.

    Sadly for Harry, I feel it may be a long while before he sees the truth of the situation and by then untold damage may well have been done to his mental health and relationships with his family.

    1. HG Tudor says:

      Thank you AK and welcome. Part of this series is making the crossover so people see the behaviour of a high profile individual, I explain what’s happening and then they think ‘hang on, this is happening to me/ happened to me’ and they read further. Ordinarily they wouldn’t have come across narcissism

  49. Kim e says:

    HG. Does MM have IPSS(s)? How many?

    1. HG Tudor says:

      I doubt she will at this juncture.

      1. alexissmith2016 says:

        Would she have IPSS by now though if she did not have royal/celebrity status?

        1. HG Tudor says:

          More likely. The scrutiny of the media and security make it difficult, but not impossible.

          1. alexissmith2016 says:

            Thanks HG. Is that the case for the majority of celebrities/MPs etc they don’t have as many SSIPs as they could otherwise have due to the level of media scrutiny?

          2. HG Tudor says:

            It very much depends on the celebrity narcissist.

            1. Some have them, flaunt them and do not bother with a facade.
            2. Some have them and keep them hushed up.
            3. Some have them and engage with them in secretive manner in order to avoid facade damage.
            4. Some are less likely to use them.

            There are a variety of permutations.

          3. alexissmith2016 says:

            Okay thanks HG. I presume this is in keeping the the schools etc

          4. WhoCares says:

            Easier to suss out an IPSS in a more distant
            place, with a less invasive public and less barrage of media…like, oh, I don’t know – say, Canada?

          5. HG Tudor says:

            Could be!

  50. MB says:

    Still suspended from Twitter I see. This is an outrage! 😡

    1. HG Tudor says:

      You know what to do in the meantime. I’m waiting for Twitter to respond, they’re not the fastest.

      1. Pati says:

        The only thing we can do is spread the word and share your articles so people can understand. We are with you 100% as your articles are accurate and informative People just dont understand Narcissism until they come to your blog.

      2. Desirée says:

        Although they were quite fast to suspend you. Good to see word of your work is getting around.

        1. HG Tudor says:

          It certainly has not hindered dissemination of the articles.

          1. Sniglet says:

            HG, were you suspended by Twitter?

          2. HG Tudor says:

            I was yes, although it has not prevented my work being shared there by loyal readers. In fact, the number of referrals from Twitter is 7 times higher than normal.

        2. Sniglet says:

          Why were you suspended? Because of the Very Royal Narcissist articles? The Twitter Twats are ridiculous.

          1. HG Tudor says:

            Indeed they are, however there is a new account as you will see on the main page of the blog @KTNHGTudor

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