A Not So Royal Narcissist Part 15


With the narcissist formerly known as HRH now firmly ensconced in Los Angeles, what more can you understand from her behaviour?

What was the impact of the latest failure in the court action against the press?

What was really going on in Archie´s first birthday video?

What does the proposed publication “Finding Freedom” tell us?

What motivated the letter to the newspaper editors of four of the UK´s largest newspapers?

What does the involvement in Project Angel Food demonstrate?

Understand more about the narcissistic dynamic with regard to this high profile situation and utilise the information garnered to understand more about your own situation.

Utilise the analysis to assist someone you know who is ensnared by a narcissist but does not realise they are.

Unrivalled analysis coming soon!

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A Very Royal Narcissist – Part 9

A Very Royal Narcissist – Part 8

A Very Royal Narcissist – Part 7

A Very Royal Narcissist – Part 6

A Very Royal Narcissist : Part 5 (Prince Andrew)

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A Very Royal Narcissist – Part 3

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212 thoughts on “A Not So Royal Narcissist Part 15

  1. Violetta says:

    The little Dutch boy must have removed his finger from the floodbank, ’cause the stories behind rumors of Meghan’s repeatedly bullying palace and foreign staffers into quitting are starting to trickle out. Soon to be a flood, I think.
    Given that she reminds me of several narcs I’ve known:

    1. Jr. High Frenemy: woos your friendship, then dumps you when you aren’t useful;

    2. Horrible bosses;

    3. Love frauds;

    4. Woker-than-thou hypocrite elementary school teachers,

    I’m experiencing way too much schadenfreude (despite the fact that I gave up the Daily Mail for Lent and have to wait until Sundays to catch up not only on the stories themselves but most of all on the comments).

  2. Judy H says:

    My dad is a narc and it took me 2 years of therapy to finally go totally no contact with him. During that 2 years I tried to educate myself about narcissism (here as well). And by now…I find something extremely strange in their behaviour, their mannerisms and appearance…I mean Meghan’s and my Dad’s. I’m not saying they are the same but for me they look kind of creepy. Like robots, or AI. Giving me goosebumps. Do you have any idea why do I feel that way? Or is it just me?

  3. Violetta says:

    HG, are you going to analyze the Oprah interview? (I’m afraid this would involve listening to it first, unless you can get a transcript.)

    1. HG Tudor says:

      I have no immediate plans to do so.

    2. NarcAngel says:

      I’d rather HG’s sure to be hilarious analysis the Harry and James Corden rom-com.

      Yes, yes, off to scrub the moat with a toothbrush for putting that in print………

      1. HG Tudor says:

        I was watching Yesterday recently. Corden appeared. Film ended. I was growing bored with it anyway, but when he appeared (and it was on a billboard) that was it, off.

        1. Brit Watcher says:

          Do you have plans to continue analysis in this series on Harry and Meghan? I keep checking back but if it’s come to its end that’s fine, would just be nice to know!

          1. HG Tudor says:


          2. Dollie says:

            “Brit Watcher”, go to the right side of your screen & go through the available options-HG HAS kept up but in an audio form. I just happened on it!

        2. Violetta says:

          Who’s more irritating: Megs or Corden?

          1. HG Tudor says:


          2. Sniglet says:

            Do you think that after the Oprah interview, Meghan and Harry will be more liked in the US and the UK? Will their Duchy titles be removed by the Queen? Is the Queen in control of the story or is M&H in control?

          3. Violetta says:

            Why is Corden more irritating?

          4. HG Tudor says:

            Res ipsa loquitur.

          5. Violetta says:

            I think Megs is more boring. She isn’t irritating enough to make her entertaining even in a negative way (although someone suggested a drinking game for the Oprah interview involving taking a shot every time she doe-eyes, pats her tummy, uses certain phrases, etc.–doubt anyone would be conscious by the end).

    3. Supernova DE says:

      I don’t think I can make it through 90 minutes of trying not to vomit over her obvious attention hogging. I watched the Africa interview for educational purposes but she is so cringe and nausea inducing I don’t think I can do it again!!! lol

  4. A Victor says:

    Oh no, I just went to see if I already have Harry’s school and cadre someplace and discovered that Meghan is the same as my ex. Poor Harry.

  5. Violetta says:


    Harry is scheduled to return to the UK for the unveiling of Diana’s statue on what would have been her 60th birthday. If Meghan can’t or won’t accompany him–whether because of Covid restrictions, indications from the palace that she isn’t welcome, or fear of being pelted with callig’d bananas by the populace (or worst of all, going unrecognized and ignored)–how likely do you think it is that Meghan will have some sudden obstetrical crisis so he can’t go either?

    1. HG Tudor says:


      1. Violetta says:

        HG, you’ve trained us far too well. You’d mentioned in GrinchLady’s NDC that she “triangulates me with objects,” a pattern I hadn’t identified: she’s done it again a few times, and it was annoying but hardly devastating. I hope her transfer to the next dept comes through (it will reduce the amount of space we have to share, though it won’t eliminate it), but I could see that she was worried about it and asserting control in other areas to make up for it.

        Yep, Meghan will FutureFake (“how nice it will be to see England again, H!”) drop NarcBombs (“oh, the cramps, the cramps!”), etc. She may make unprofessional diva demands on acting jobs, diplomatic visits, or modeling shoots, but by golly she’s got the lines and blocking on her narc script dead on.

  6. Supernova DE says:

    Something I’ve contemplated often when reading this series, could you help clarify?
    If Harry is ensnarable (empath) then why would a Greater narcissist not try to scoop him up?? All the wealth and residual benefits and contacts etc…is it not worth it? I assume he must not be the right school and cadre?
    I find it so interesting that someone with such power and resources ended up with a less effective MMRN…
    Thanks for any insight!

    1. HG Tudor says:

      Does not fit with what a Greater would require.

    2. A Victor says:

      Harry is a good one to put on my Show Me the Empath list! Thank you Supernova DE!

      1. BC30 says:

        Ooooooh you’re right!

  7. Dolores Haze says:

    Okay, Meg’s PR plan for the current week included the planted story of Harry being mistaken for a Christmas tree salesman. A reasonable amount of time has passed since the miscarriage novel (great writing by the PR people on that one, I almost believed she actually goes through those daily motions of personally caring for her son, her dogs, making breakfast and ponytails… NOT) for the media coverage to die down. What do we learn from the Xmas tree story? Oh, brave family-oriented woman is courageously moving on after a miscarriage and creating Xmas memories for her family – just like an ordinary caring mom and wife. She could have had the tree delivered, or send some of her staff to pick it up, but then we wouldn’t have the juicy story of the prince being mistaken for a pauper… Notice how the Xmas tree shop was cleared by their agent (ehm, Wimbledon), so the normal, down-to-earth Duchess can do her shopping without distractions from the less fortunate. Now, for the main event: a little boy apparently mistaking Harry for the Xmas tree salesperson (triangulation much?). A child is Meghan’s key demographic these days PR-wise with the Netflix children’s educational programs being developed, the miscarriage promotion, Archie “being the reason behind all her life choices” – including but not limited to the need for privacy, relocation to SoCal, bodyguards, private jets etc. So no wonder a kid was chosen over an adult to “make this sweet mistake”. The publicizing of the fact that an English prince was not only not recognized, but mistaken for help (read: lower echelon of people) is a very clear indicator that he is, indeed, in devaluation. Even if such little embarrassment indeed took place, why make it public? Here’s why: to show Harry that he’s nobody without her in the USA. And the whole world needed to be told this, to add to his humiliation. Nobody cares about him there, nobody even knows him. It’s not Meghan who was mistaken for someone else, somebody working class, it was him (oh how the mighty have fallen and all that). She’s the Queen of the United States, and he’s nobody. If he doesn’t do as she pleases, this is his future: selling wood or worse. Harry must have done something really naughty in depth of his devaluation at this particular moment in time to be humiliated by her like this.

    Am I exaggerating or, on the contrary, not digging deep enough?

    1. Violetta says:

      One blog looked at the photo of Harry “at the tree farm” and found the same photo from an earlier picture, ‘shopped in the tree background.

      In addition to her “borrowing” a scene from “Steel Magnolia” & a passage from Stefanie Tong’s 2016 book “Chasing Light: Finding Hope Through the Loss,” a reader on DM pointed out that she got the entire concept plus the title of her dirge from a 2018 story, “The Losses We Share (and Those We Don’t)” by Tuvstarr’s lost heart fanfiction.

      She’s as clueless as Bette Davis, practicing her decades-old vaudeville routine in front of the mirror in a grown-up sized version of her frilly child star costume–until Bette steps in for a closer look and the reality of her wrinkles hits her. Meghan hasn’t had the moment of reality yet. Don’t know if she ever will. G
      God knows, Trump is fighting his momennt of reality tooth and nail.

      1. polar says:

        I remember my mom gushing about how nice it was that MM had her veil embroidered with all the flowers from the commonwealth countries and I later watched the crown and the queen had a dress made with that same concept! in that moment I was like OMG, MM watched the crown too!!!

        I wonder what else she has copied shamelessly?

        1. Violetta says:

          Diana’s outfits. One blog had parallel pictures. Really creepy.

    2. heatherbinns says:

      Dolores – I like your explanation for the Xmas tree salesman – I hadn’t thought of it like that! Good points!

  8. Violetta says:

    From Daniela Elser’s article, “Kate Middleton’s landmark speech is overshadowed by Meghan Markle news,” on the Duchess of Cambridge’s project on early childhood development and the supposedly imminent rise of the Sussex rival court:

    “Entirely coincidentally, barely two days before Kate’s big moment was set to kick off, Meghan, Duchess of Sussex, had published a profoundly moving and powerful personal essay in The New York Times about having miscarried her second child earlier in the year.”

    Coincidence. Sure.

    1. lickemtomorrow says:

      I’m must wondering if anyone knew she was pregnant when she miscarried (had the news been shared) and how far along was she when it happened? There doesn’t seem to be a lot of detail around the actual pregnancy, just that she was pregnant and miscarried. I’ve read some quotes from the article, but none of it moves me, yet it is described as being very moving. In all honesty, knowing she is a narc makes no difference to me. I wouldn’t be moved either way. I am moved by HGs words, and what he writes, but even if it’s true, Meghan doesn’t have the ability to move me. It’s like what she has written is written for an audience with a total lack of connection to the whole experience. The other thing I noticed is that she refers to Harry as “my husband” and he refers to her as “his wife”. There was a cringeworthy moment prior to the election where she may as well have been a ventriloquist and he the dummy as he mouthed the words which it felt like she put there: “my wife said …” It’s like “have you even got a mind of your own anymore?” But, it’s a definite peculiarity. There’s a dynamic there I’m not sure I’ve been able to discern yet. But not using first names seems to be a form or distancing (rejection of intimacy) or it could be an element of possession (“my husband/my wife”) instigated by her. And what has Harry come out and said about the miscarriage? I’m not aware of him commenting, but could have missed it. Maybe it’s like my recent comments about Taylor Swift and the unfortunate circumstances are being used to help benefit others.

      1. lickemtomorrow says:

        The gremlins got me … “must” = *just* in that first sentence. The rest is perfect 🙂

    2. NarcAngel says:

      Who knows if MeMe was even pregnant. No one will want to pry too much due to appearing insensitive, and people unaware of the lengths to which a narcissist can go would go apeshit at the suggestion that it was manufactured. It’s a perfect manipulation really (if that’s what it is) due to the sensitivity involved. At this point I wouldn’t be surprised if she just had a solid and satisfying BM and believes it to be a loss.

      1. HG Tudor says:

        Valid observations.

      2. Violetta says:

        I wonder how many symptoms of pregnancy she observed. An unusually heavy cycle could be the beginning of menopause, but
        A) she can’t accept the fact she might be aging;
        B) not much sympathy for that.

      3. lickemtomorrow says:

        Spot on, NA. This is a reminder of my mother and others also who fit the Mid Range category.

        They have an ability to engineer situations where to question them would make you appear insensitive. And therefore you hold back and they get away with their manipulation.

        It’s frustrating that there are constant reports of one or another Royal or celebrity being pregnant along with pics of the ‘baby bump’ in the circumstances. You never know what to believe and that could be part of the problem. And why you would take it with a pinch of salt. Any one of them could claim to have been pregnant and the loss of that pregnancy, And the tabloids could report that, too. Because that is what tabloids do. Most of the time these women aren’t pregnant, they just look pregnant due to the angle for the most part. I don’t know if anyone was reporting she was pregnant, (love the MeMe, btw), but that would provide a convenient platform. I just would like more facts, which should be available if she ended up in the hospital. And I don’t think you can make a claim like that in her position without more information to back it up. Otherwise, it appears as a regular pity play on her part.

  9. Violetta says:

    Some bloggers have been posting the following excerpt from Chasing Light: Finding Hope Through the Loss by Stefanie Tong–a book published in 2016:

    “I clutched her tightly and cried into her. As I tenderly held my firstborn in my arms, I was saying goodbye to my third.”

    The bloggers suggest that this is unlikely to be the only passage or author MM plagiarized. If numerous people come forward after finding sections of their writing in the NY Times essay, this will blow up in her face like an atom bomb. It won’t be just the plagiarism: women who’ve suffered miscarriages will be indignant at her camping out on their misery. It may be possible that she did indeed miscarry, but has to borrow the words of others to express emotions she can only approximate. However, if the public finds a significant portion of her words to be one kind of fraud, the natural assumption will be that the experience she claims is merely another.

    1. MGM says:

      Meghan’s been caught plagiarizing a bunch.

  10. Violetta says:

    Meghan has written an article about having a miscarriage in July. Reactions range from natural sympathy to skepticism (since Chrissy Teigen got mostly supportive reactions to her recent announcement) to one blogger laying out a chart of the Sussexes’ July activities to show how unlikely this would be.

    Her prose style is certainly rather florid compare to Chrissy’s (or Brooke Shields, who described her own miscarriage rather bluntly in a book). Is it possible Meghan would tell an outright lie about such a thing, or is she just embellishing an actual event for effect because Narcissism?

  11. Violetta says:

    There are reports that MM did the voiceover at Lincoln Project’s anti-Trump “Girl in the Mirror” video. I don’t support Trump, but why is a British Duchess telling me how to vote? If she is a voting American citizen, how does she have a British title?

    I wish I could lock them both in a room and let them rant and whine each other to mutual destruction.

    1. Lisa Mills says:

      Unrivalled analysis coming soon! Really on tenterhooks for this….well err since May…hope springs eternal in the human breast

      1. Carol Deckert says:

        Would like to clarify if Mr. Tudor possibly received a cease and desist order from someone in the royal family, or Meghan’s lawyer, or from someone else protecting them? Maybe that’s why we don’t see #15? There’s plenty of grist for the mill. I have read many of H.G. Tudor’s books and there’s no doubt he is an expert on all levels and kinds of narcissism, including, in particular, covert or socialized psychopathy. You need to see it from the inside out before you understand how utterly value-less you are (like an appliance) unless you are part of their N.S and fall into line. His books helped me fully comprehend what the Narc really thinks like and that is hard to do for a non-Narc. Your mind just does not go to those places. You can see how any relationship with a Narc will end up badly for you. But back to Meghan. It would seem Meghan has been short on NS for awhile and likes to get it by playing the victim. She married into royalty, got Harry to give up his life in the U.K for her, has access to scads of money, spends a ton of money on her wardrobe, but apparently she needs to get regular attention from the Press and it is always “Poor me.” Why are her accounts always so steeped in melodrama: “I immediately dropped to the floor holding my baby”–who would drop to the floor holding an infant? It’s not safe. You could easily harm the baby. And this business of “no one asking me in the royal family if I’m okay.” Really? The Queen lived through the London bombing and never wanted or sought to be asked this question. This woman has a massive ego, wants to be “Diana 2.0” and felt she was treated badly because the royal family thought she was outdoing Diana (THEY were jealous of “her.” Oh. ) That’s apparently in “Finding Freedom.” I wanted so much to love Meghan but she exudes phoniness and is an obvious manipulator. (If you have ever known just one, this woman just screams it.) She saw that Harry was wounded from his mother’s death and his parents’ rows and affairs, and he needed a woman who saw herself as a victim and to idealize and to give everything to as in “What Meghan wants, Meghan gets” he was apparently heard to say in support of her when she caused problems before their wedding. Meghan also gives Harry permission to wally in his own victimhood. It’s okay to acknowledge your pain and to get it treated, but to wallow is never productive. In my opinion, she is going to eat him for lunch one day, but again, she will tell it like she is the victim. The child will be a pawn and will never belong in the Royal world or the real world. Why didn’t the parents think of that? Who is going to hire some guy (Archie–what a name) who will need high level security wherever he goes? Or is he to live an empty life of leisure? How can he return to the U.K when he has no training in how to be a royal? It’s a mess. I do feel for women who have lost a child before birth, but why did Meghan wait so long, go to a place that supports women who miscarry and then make a statement that she was one of them, four months later? Now she gets multiple NS by the press running around to interview people like Charles Spencer and Prince Charles. Notice it’s men the Press picks as men cannot win when commenting on a woman miscarrying. They will come across like a bull in a china shop. Charles Spencer’s awkwardness is palpable, though he makes all the right noises. Meghan is setting up the Royal Family to look heartless: their replies will always be interpreted by her and her fans as being cold or inadequate. It’s like trying to catch them with their pants down as the Royal Family never comments on intimate family matters and for good reason: they don’t wish to be exploited by the press or be perceived as trying to milk sympathy from the public. Charles learned from his huge boner when he went to the press to air his dirty laundry about Diana and Camilla, and it exploded in his face. As for Serena Williams giving Meghan advice “Don’t let them change you,” this was far from wise. Of course the Establishment was not going to let this upstart change hundreds of years of tradition. It is hard enough for the actual “blood” Royal Family to make changes. I’m just reading a book by Lady Colin Campbell where she explains how Edward VIII, a forward modern thinker, was destroyed by the “ossifiers at court” who didn’t want a thing to be changed. It led to he and Wallis being shunned. Wallis was also smeared by those who had a stake in keeping things “the same.” All Meghan did was make herself look gauche and selfish. I mean, here she was given all sorts of privilege and money and she still had to turn herself out wearing black and dark navy (for funerals) and wearing inappropriate clothes for the occasions she was going to, sailing into a tennis match wearing jeans and a hat. Then she drags Harry across the Pond to try to find his way among the Los Angeles set. And Los Angeles culture (think about it) has to be as different from the Royal Family’s culture as a mule is from a prize stallion. Harry is going to get shredded and so is their child. Their wedding was a fiasco: the minister had no sense of the formal occasion (“Two people in love wanted to get married and so we showed up.” —Right, just so casual like grabbing a latte.) Meghan acted like a spoiled brat in demanding the emerald tiara from the Queen. She couldn’t wait to flaunt Diana’s aquamarine ring in that snazzy car that Harry drove to the reception. Royal wedding invites go out to particular people who are friends, relatives and who have position at court, so Meghan invites the Mega Queen of Media, Oprah? Who showed up wearing a massive and ridiculously feathered hat that would block the view of the ceremony, by the way. Meghan’s wedding dress was also plain as plain could be and accentuated the lack of waist to hip ratio she has (she’s built very straight). The veil was over the top for someone her age, and the bouquet was pathetic. People will schmooze and fall over themselves regarding Meghan because she is biracial and because she is an American who married into Royalty but frankly, she is clueless as to how she actually comes across. Hers is not the polish of Grace Kelly who could carry the role royalty demanded of her. Although Meghan’s half-sister, Samantha is rather rough, I believe she was trying to speak the truth about Meghan, and typically, no one believed her, as no one who is close to any narcissist can see them as anything but wonderful and perfect! Everyone turned on Samantha: a woman confined to a wheel chair due to her M.S, and who had no sister to turn to for friendship or support. Here’s also a woman (Meghan) who mails her engagement ring back to her first husband, who was, quite conveniently, a producer. She is at best a “B” actress and her sex scenes on Suits show a woman who will sell herself out and be quite comfortable doing so. Then she will turn herself around and call herself a “feminist.” All her pregnant belly clutching and eagerness to pose for any photo shoot going underscores who she really is. Do you ever notice in the shoots that Harry tries to turn away with pain in his eyes but Meghan is always looking directly into the camera lens and smirking? It’s all about “Me Me Me.” Please.

        1. HG Tudor says:

          No they have not. Mr Tudor is very busy with other matters and has not yet completed a further update.

          1. Carol Deckert says:

            Looking forward to reading it when you have the time to write it, H.G. I have a personal library of over 60 books on character disturbance and what you write is straight-up, as you say in your prefaces. Your personal offerings on narcissism are 100% clinically accurate when cross-referenced with specialized experts, for anyone out there who wonders about credibility. Your books made me able to see the raw reality of several personalities I have come across in my life. There’s a “click” or eureka moment in the brain when you see how they fit a certain pattern and a horrible sickening feeling in the gut. I saw one particularly dangerous covert when she dropped her mask while alone with me and it was horrifying who she was, at her essence. I’ll never forget it. This is REAL and if you have one in your life you are a fool if you refuse to recognize it or think you can fix it. It’s literally like entering another dimension once you have lost your innocence and see the patterns and manipulations. But seeing, though everything in you doesn’t want to, is better than going forth blind. Thank you for your response, H.G., as you took time to read my lengthy submission, and this one as well, while being quite busy.

          2. HG Tudor says:

            Thank you Carol, I appreciate your endorsement of my work.

        2. lickemtomorrow says:

          I enjoyed reading your thoughts, Carol. I haven’t read any articles related to the miscarriage yet, and never having suffered one myself feel deeply for any woman who has. I’m sure it is heartbreaking to lose a longed for baby. At the same time, my first thoughts related to Meaghan were ‘pity play’. The four month hiatus from when the event was supposed to have occurred could relate to privacy and a need to overcome the trauma. It could also relate to her need for attention. The former could answer the question of why now and not then. The latter makes me wonder why she is in particular need of attention now. There has been some reporting of Diana’s interview on the BBC, and perhaps she feels this is drawing attention away from her (not sure who’s even that interested in her right now, which could be another reason). Maybe talk of Diana creates an opportunity for her to take advantage of a further pity play. It’s actually quite sad to think of the situation this way. Where normally people would empathize with a woman in that position, I’m afraid she draws no empathy from me. Partly because I’m unsure of the details, and partly because I feel she is using what is an authentic tragedy in many people’s lives to bolster her own image.

          It’s a sad state of affairs for Harry and their son overall. My heart truly goes out to them.

          1. Carol Deckert says:

            Thank you for sharing your thoughts. Yes, definitely, Meghan might/did need time to heal from the miscarriage. And you have some very intriguing thoughts about her timing of the announcement. As I said, I really did want to love Meghan to pieces, but she is absolutely the wrong woman for Harry. I don’t blame him for wanting to leave The Firm, it’s probably very toxic for him, but not this way with this particular personality. He’s in way over his head with her.

        3. Violetta says:

          Some bloggers have suggested that Meghan has copied a scene from Steel Magnolias in which Julia Roberts drops to the floor in pain while singing a lullaby to her baby, but in her character’s case, it’s a symptom from a disease that will prove to be terminal. Women who’ve suffered miscarriages say the first reaction is to hit the bathroom and check for blood, hoping there won’t be any.

          Nothing new for MM. She’s engaged in Acquisition of Traits before. You might wonder how she could suppose people who saw the movie wouldn’t recognize the scene and call her on it, but so many things narcs do just defy logic.

          1. Carol Deckert says:

            I knew 2 Narc women who claimed to miscarry. One privately told me she had an abortion but then with others she played the miscarriage card for sympathy. No one knew she had been pregnant so it wasn’t obvious she had lost a baby, if that’s what actually occurred. I don’t think this is appropriate to spread around at the workplace while telling me this was “private info.” The other Narc described what sounded like a blood clot from having fibroids. She, too, had this look of sharing a great secret that made her important. Look, I feel very sorry for women who lose a baby, and do not want to judge those who feel they must get an abortion–but it bothers me a great deal when Narcs do this to create an aura of grave importance, and manipulate with it. I also knew another female Narc who felt desperate to have a baby and when she did, she was emotionally and even physically abusive to the little girl. I felt sorry for this woman at first, but then disgusted. Women narcs and female coverts fly under the radar A LOT.

          2. Violetta says:

            A family friend had several miscarriages before the doctors found a way to stitch her up or something so she could carry to term. I heard her talk about it with my mother and she had that dazed, matter-of-fact manner, where you don’t and can’t embroider the details. The sad thing about Meghan is she has cried wolf so many times that she could be telling the truth, and many people wouldn’t believe her.

        4. WhoCares says:

          Carol Deckert,

          It was interesting to read your thoughts.

          “It’s literally like entering another dimension once you have lost your innocence and see the patterns and manipulations.”

          This is an apt statement.

        5. E&L says:

          Hi Carol.

          “Do you ever notice in the shoots that Harry tries to turn away with pain in his eyes but Meghan is always looking directly into the camera lens and smirking? It’s all about “Me Me Me.” Please.”

          I wonder if this behavior/reaction you are noticing is Harry’s manifestation of his intuition telling him something is WRONG! I know I have memories of hundreds of moments that I denied/ignored/discredited these feelings. Only now, having learned about personality disorders, can I see what was happening. And, when oddities in interactions happen in the present, I am still very slow to figure it all out.

  12. Violetta says:

    DM Interview with John Lydon: Does he think that Harry perhaps didn’t marry the right woman? ‘I don’t think she’s the right person for anyone. She seems like a narcissist to me and they’re very destructive.’

    We mean it, man!

    1. Debra says:

      Thank you for that, Violetta. I missed that one, and it’s a good read. They are destructive – they leave their special path of destruction in their wake. At first I thought they meant to and are happy about it but I don’t know now. I think they just don’t care about what they leave behind and don’t give anyone or anything a second thought as they happily embark on their new life and the hurt they inflict on their new victim. It’s all about them and what they want. But then why the hoovering? I get that they need their jollies in torturing people (fuel) but if they’ve moved on and have found a new victim from whom they get that, why the hoovering? Could it be that their new victim’s loved ones saw something and warned them? I don’t think so, as it’s been our experience that the victim won’t listen. So why the hoovering? Can’t they just go away? HG? I’ve read about hoovering here but I need WHY, and not just for jollies.

      1. HG Tudor says:

        Hoovering is not jollies about torturing people (where Lesser or Mid-Range as they do not see it as hoovering or torturing because of the way they are blinded by their narcissism). Greater and the Ultra may use it in such a way and knowingly.
        Hoovering is done (1) as part of a direction assertion of control (2) possibly also for fuel, character traits and residual benefits. Hoovering achieves The Prime Aims.

  13. Violetta says:

    I realize you may be busy watching Man City vs Arsenal, HG, but there are reports that the house the Sussexes claim to have bought is actively listed for film and vid rentals. Bloggers have been able to click through to book the space for imaginary shoots in November and December, all the way to the payment info pages.

    If MM is just claiming they live there (locals say they’ve never seen evidence of either residents or security, just like Frogmore), she can kiss whatever credibility she has left goodbye. If, however, the Sussexes themselves are affiliated with the realty co., as has been speculated (last one was Icon, filing in December 2019), any attempts to claim personal expenses as business will bring the wrath of the IRS down on them. I’ve copyedited tax law publications, and you have to keep careful records on when you used that computer for business and when you were watching streaming services or letting junior do his homework before you try to write off equipment, maintenance, or your electric bill. Same with acting: if you could use that outfit in real life, you can’t write it off as a costume.

    I understand how her Narcissism would allow her to think no one would catch all the contradictions in her PR statements, personal history, bandwagon cause-rotating, etc., but does she really think the IRS won’t forcibly pursue and extract their pound of flesh if she tries to scam THEM? Doesn’t that cross the boundary from Narcissistic Arrogance into plain stupidity?

    1. heatherbinns says:

      It’s like watching a slow motion train wreck! Fascinating! Yes I look forward to the next installment here!

  14. Violetta says:

    DM reader conversation on a Meghan’s election campaigning:

    UnvarnishedOpinion, Big City, United States, 16 hours ago
    Hope she calls me. I will fart in her ear.

    MUUSHI123, MYOB, United States, 16 hours ago

    infinity111, neverland, United States, 15 hours ago

    Ana, Hobart, Australia, 11 hours ago
    Oh god, the mental image of that is hysterical! LOL

    Ejan Asuk, Eastern Seaboard, United States, 9 hours ago
    Someone should invent a “smell-a-phone” for occasions just like this.

    My sister Violet, Room for a Pony, United States, 3 hours ago
    UnvarnishedOpinion: Please marry me. I want to have your babies.

    You aint right, All over, United States, 1 hour ago
    Omg…that just struck me as so funny!

  15. Violetta says:

    Troll and replies. My favorite is Henk, for sheer understatement:

    Barnaby Bear, Flying Fish Cove, Christmas Island, 18 hours ago
    Rejoice everyone! Rejoice! And let the celebrations begin. 3 cheers everyone for Harry and Princess Meghan. Hip Hip Hooray! Hip Hip Hooray! Hip Hip Hooray!

    Pussy Galore, London, United Kingdom, 18 hours ago
    Don’t forget to take the tablets.

    Henk, Rotterdam, Netherlands, 17 hours ago
    Not you again….

  16. Violetta says:

    DM headline:

    “Meghan Markle and Prince Harry are morphing into ‘John and Yoko’ since quitting the royal family with their ‘bohemian’ style and ‘desire for global harmony’, says body language expert”

    Am I correct in thinking that Yoko could narc that little amateur of a Markle under the table?

  17. Violetta says:

    More fun from the DM comment section:

    Finding Freedom contains a rather florid section in which Meghan does some yoga:

    Theirs was a love story that took hold in Africa – where now Meghan, on the last day of an incredible three-week stay, stretched her body into the perfect warrior pose. She quietly took in her surroundings from the grounds of their final home away from home on this trip, a modern villa in Livingstone, Zambia, just under ten miles upstream from Victoria Falls. The rising sun washed over her makeshift yoga garden, while an exotic flock of birds that looked as if they had just had their tails dipped in pots of colourful paints serenaded her.

    (Even the DM referred to the “perfect warrior pose” quote as “toe-curling.”)

    consumnut72, richmond, Canada, 3 hours ago
    With the paint dipped tailed birds fluttering above the heavenly scene.

    Always observing, Bangkok, Thailand, 3 hours ago
    When I first heard about her ‘makeshift yoga garden’ I thought she was referring to her foo foo!

  18. heatherbinns says:

    I look forward to the next episode. I really think using Meghan Markle is such a perfect example of narcissism – and we are seeing it play out! All HG has said in previous episodes has happened. I’m wondering when Harry will be cast aside.

    1. Lumain says:

      As soon as he is of no use to her and she thinks she is a bigger star than him.
      For now he is still her ticket and with book and all that. Might be a few years. Because she needs to still look good and casting him aside will not look good.
      I wonder how she will do productions with him as they are apparently pitching ideas. I mean she will overshadow him and tell him he have no experience and she does.

      1. Debra says:

        She will make sure she’s the one who looks good whenever it is she decides to discard him. She’s already been laying the groundwork. It’s what they do. They meticulously plan their exit.

        1. HG Tudor says:

          Most narcissists do not meticulously plan the exit, it looks like that to you, but that is not the case. Read The Narcissist and Calculation Parts One and Two.

          1. Debra says:

            Thank you. I will. I do know that the abusive in every way snake who recently callously and cruelly discarded our son after 10 years (thank goodness!! He is hurting right now but we are delighted she’s gone – hopefully stays gone but we know about hoovering. Her leaving is the best thing that ever happened to him because she was the worst thing that ever happened to him) had been meticulously planning her exit behind his back for the better part of a year. No children so he (and we) get to walk away and never see the creep again.

          2. Debra says:

            To add. They must plan something at some point because evidently they make sure they have another poor unsuspecting sot to freeload off of. They have already targeted and snagged their next victim by the time they leave. They wouldn’t leave unless there was another lily pad ready and waiting for them to jump to. A new and free place to hang their hat. A new victim to torment for their needed fuel. If it doesn’t come easily enough for them, it takes some effort on their part and yes, planning.

        2. Violetta says:

          I don’t know. That book was designed to make her look good and it backfired spectacularly. She’s turning into a cross between Elmer Fudd and Wile E. Coyote.

          1. Debra says:

            You know that, I know that, and many others know that. But she does have fans (they are truly crazy) who think she can do no wrong and, as she will plan, Harry will be blamed.

      2. Hargitay Judit says:

        Lumain – I think she originally thought back in January that by this time (its the end of summer) she would be an A-list superstar, with multimillion dollar gigs and offers coming her way. That did not happen, and the pandemic just accelerated her downfall. Im pretty sure by this time she wanted to get rid of Harry but now she is stuck as her only valuable asset is his ex-royal husband. Therefore, Harry’s discard will take a while, which is bad news for him, as his life currently in the devaluation phase must be a living hell.

    2. Jami says:

      When is part 15 coming, i keep looking for it?

      1. HG Tudor says:

        When I decide to publish it, Jami.

  19. Violetta says:

    DM article:

    “The 26 most toe-curling quotes from Finding Freedom: Friends who are amazed by Meghan’s packing skills and call her ‘Grace under fire’, classmates who taunt her for being ‘perfect’ and how Harry is ‘tough to impress'”

    It was funny until I slipped into English instructor mode and started mentally copy editing it.

    1. Lumain says:

      I think way too much time and energy is spend on this woman by every one. By now those that has seen through her, knows that whatever she is doing, is for attention and that she is not honest at all. She has been given way too much attention and actually did nothing worthy of it.

      1. Violetta says:

        In my case, it’s comic relief. With all the crap going on with our politics, the economy, the pandemic, the social unrest, eyc. being able to laugh at this woman’s pretensions is a welcome respite.

        1. Renarde says:

          Oh, agreed.

          Its fascinating.

          Poor Hal. Talk aboitba lamb to the proverbial slaughter.

  20. Violetta says:

    The more they try to make themselves look good, the more it backfires.

    DM headline:

    “Meghan Markle’s classmates used to think she was being ‘fake’ because they thought didn’t think it was possible for anyone to be that ‘perfect’ and well-rounded, biography claims”

    No SHIT! Perceptive lil buggers, weren’t they?

  21. Dolores Haze says:

    It’s MeAgain’s birthday today and I just wanted to highlight the way the Royal Family congratulated her, you couldn’t make this stuff up. First and foremost, they have deleted any mention of HRH title and severely edited the blah-blah about her “philanthropy” in her official biography on the Royal website… while Prince Harry’s page remains unchanged. Secondly, take a look at the photographs the Royal family chose to post on IG congratulating her. Clarence House’s is more or less, but Her Majesty’s post is my favorite: the Queen is front and center, waving to the crowd while Ms Markle is pushed into a right corner with a full head of grey hair highlighted by the white outfit. As for the photo displayed by the Kensington account… I think she might sue the Cambridges for their choice!

  22. Violetta says:

    Meghan and Thomas Markle feud article comments:

    Baruch Hitchens, Anywhere without religion, United Kingdom, 4 hours ago

    He will keep running to the DM for a pay check to throw cheap shorts at Meghan.

    MerryM, Cleveland, United States, 4 hours ago

    Now why would he take his shorts off and throw them at Meghan? Really. You are odd.

    What would we do without DM comments?

  23. Violetta says:

    So Megs wants to have a birthday party because she’s feeling cooped up in Tyler’s mansion. Oblivious to suffering of people cooped up in Section 8 or Council Flats with 3 kids and job furloughs which may become permanent. Same cluelessness to how condescending she sounds as with the Bananas of Empowerment Lack of emotional empathy, Pity Play.) Like to see her air her grievances in the South Bronx.

    She announced this because George’s birthday (Dropping the Narc Bomb. Also Insult and Provocation because she wasn’t allowed to Narc-Bomb Bea’s wedding.)

    DM readers are speculating that she is hinting for Oprah to throw her a party, just as she had her PR people hint that HM was going to give her a “special award” for how active she had been or hold her b-day party at Balmoral, which she later said was too far for Archie to travel, though she took him much farther than that several times.
    (Magical Thinking, as if saying it will make it happen, friendship is developed for ulterior gain, not for the friendship in itself, and Contradictory behavior .)

    They have also commented that she didn’t bother doing anything of the kind for Archie’s or Harry’s birthdays (Sense of Entitlement). As HG noted in AVRN #2, she was constantly calling attention to her baby bump at multiple events. Once Archie was ex utero, she lost interest in him except when (as one DM reader noted), she used the occasion of his birthday to read AT him, not TO him.

    (Have to admit, this stuff is actually kind of fun when you run it through the Tudor definitions.)

    My favorite DM response? The guy who said he’d rather eat an out-of-date sandwich from his local train station than go to her party. I knew someone in grad school who ate a sandwich purchased from a trolley dolly, and the legends are TRUE.

    Can you imagine how much she is loathed to make a British citizen come out with a statement like that? I don’t think it was entirely hyperbole, either.

    1. Lumain vv says:

      Nice. Where did she said all these things? Is there a link?

      1. Violetta says:

        “EXCLUSIVE: ‘Cooped up’ Meghan wants to leave her $18M sprawling mega-mansion to celebrate her August birthday – and will make guests get tested for Covid-19 beforehand”

        1. Kim says:

          Violetta. Hope I get an invite. It will be the place to be seen. Maybe James C will be there. 😍😍

          1. Violetta says:


            You going for the Karaoke?

      2. Violetta says:

        Lumain VV:

        You may also enjoy looking through the “Worst” comments on DM articles, just to say how people respond to trolling. The article “Prince Harry and Meghan Markle ‘bring out the worst in each other’ because she’s ‘a mega-watt attention grabber’ while the Duke has ‘faded in her shadow’, royal biographer claims” produced this classic exchange:

        Dump Trump 69, Embrace Communism, United States, 5 hours ago
        Princess Meghan should be queen. Anything less is supporting white privilege.

        CatSmith80, Wakefield, United Kingdom, 4 hours ago
        Trump got a better chance to be Queen

  24. Violetta says:

    I think I finally understand the reason MM made all those expensive changes to Frogmore, like the yoga floor & the copper bathtub, when it’s widely suspected she already knew they wouldn’t live there. It was to PUNISH people. HM, for giving them a cottage instead of a castle, the Cambridges, for short-circuiting her attempts to snoop, & of course the British, for not 100% adoring her as she was entitled.

  25. Violetta says:

    More words of wisdom from DM comments:

    P D Greko, Oxford, United Kingdom, 11 hours ago

    As an American I do know what I am talking about – this is all you need to know on this topic – MM is the true English Rose. Hopefully she will return to the UK to heal all – Please come home to the UK Princess of Hearts – your country needs you.

    Charles, Nottingham, 12 hours ago

    You need to seek treatment asap

  26. Jolene says:

    Hey HG Tudor, have you lost interest in publishing this article? I have been eagerly waiting for it. 😁 I admit I didn’t have the patience to scroll through the comments, probably parts of this article were discussed there. Cheers!

  27. Ruth Barber says:

    Are you actually going to write this article or what?

    1. HG Tudor says:

      I choose what.

      1. Ruth Barber says:

        good for you

        1. HG Tudor says:

          I know. It’s great being me.

          1. Sue Camies says:

            Totally live love love your informative insight into Meghans mind motivations and needs.

          2. HG Tudor says:

            Thank you.

      2. Monika Anna says:

        Are you going to write it? Or not?

    2. NarcAngel says:

      Someone’s time would be better spent reading Miss Manners than about the former Miss Markle.

      1. HG Tudor says:


      2. Bubbles 🍾 says:

        Dearest NarcAngel,
        Your expert assistance with directions to induction classes appear to be required 🤣
        Luv Bubbles xx 😘

      3. Violetta says:

        I’m hearing a Coastie accent. In parts of Philly, Joisey, and B’klyn, “or what” functions as a question mark.

        Now I’m homesick.

        1. Ruth Barber says:

          No need to be homesick, it’s British and from a part of that country where people are expected to be direct and tell it like it is. We also expect people to do what they say they are going to do and call it dishonesty if they don’t..

      4. Ruth Barber says:

        Was there a polite way of saying it?

        1. HG Tudor says:

          ‘HG, would you let me know when this article is going to be published please?’ Evidently beyond you.

          1. Silly Brit says:

            The dogs, when not fed fresh meat, start turning on their owner…..

          2. Violetta says:

            I’m not a visual thinker, but does Silly Brit have the same Gravatar as Pamela?

          3. Silly Brit says:


          4. HG Tudor says:

            You, Pamela. You are posting under Silly Brit now.

          5. Ruth Barber says:

            It’s not so much about turning on anyone – It’s more about concern over what is looking increasingly like the Emperors new clothes. Whether we consider the way of saying it rude or polite, the point remains the same. The question is the issue, not the packaging and the question has not been answered.

          6. HG Tudor says:

            The question was answered.

    3. Renarde says:

      Norty Ruth.

    4. Love says:

      Gosh I miss all the drama of the past! Somebody would come to the blog, yell and or rant, accuse you of something, kick up a lot of dust, get in a big fight with a group of people, and then they’d leave. Only to return to do it all again on another article.
      Things seem so much tamer now. Why is that?

      1. HG Tudor says:

        It neither happened much in the past either. Most of the time it is a constructive environment. Rather than relying on memory, have you any actual evidence of the number of “spats” as a proportion of “non-spat” comments say 3 years ago as to compared to now, Love? That would provide a more reliable measurement.

        1. Love says:

          Right you are Sir. Data before drama. I will categorize the 4 years of comments into spat vs non-spat, and calculate the statistical significance of the decreased amount of spat. Please stay tuned.

          1. HG Tudor says:

            Before you do so, be careful to ensure a spat is a spat and not just a disagreement. Certain individuals make the mistake of labelling being corrected as “an attack”, therefore the correct label for a spat must be achieved before you embark upon this analysis!

          2. Love says:

            If I rely solely on my narcissistic traits, then everything will be an attack. Thereby falling into the spat category. I must summon the Empath Gods for this endeavor.
            Oh Great Empath Goddess, guide me!

          3. HG Tudor says:

            That does not make sense. I am a narcissistic psychopath and thus have plenty of narcissistic traits and I am perfectly capable of differentiating between a spat and a robust discussion. It has nothing to do with narcissistic traits.

            I will help you.
            1. Pointing out somebody is incorrect and doing so politely and constructively with reference to evidence is not an attack or spat.
            2. Somebody using insulting language, failing to take on board a point advanced by evidence, jumping to conclusions with evidence, ignoring salient points is the behaviour of a spat.

          4. Love says:

            Thank you for your wisdom… it appears I will be forever be in need of your assistance with these new found traits of mine.

          5. HG Tudor says:

            Nothing to do with your traits.

          6. Violetta says:

            Tone in written communication matters.

            To be fair, I can see myself using Ruth’s original wording when I was in Ms. Mona Lisa Vito mode, but I wouldn’t be offended by HG replying, “I choose what.”

            Maybe I spent too much time in Brooklyn.

          7. Renarde says:


            I do understan whst you are saying but I’ve never witnessed many true attacks on here.

            They do occur, from time to time

            I did witness a particularly PA comment a while ago. I won’t repeat it because no reason.

            I GENUINELY believe that the issuer of that comment didn’t percieve how utterly lacking in empathy it was. And why would she? Narc.

            You know as well as I do that spats must and will occur. In fact I did it myself the other day. When I calmed down, I realised I was in the wrong and apologised. Accepted.

            I urge you to visit other big relationship boards and see how often genuine OPs are attacked. Their experiences invalidated. All narcs. Directed at Empaths who are in trauma.

            I explained it to another poster. If I am helping another Empath and they are getting it and suddenly someone attacks me, well that speaks volumes.

            The explanation is this. My response has ignited the fury in them because they now feel uncomfortable and are lashing out to stop the discomfort and heal the wound. Sometimes others, usually narcs, will pile on. Other reasons too but that’s broadly it. Other poster, yeah I get it. That makes sense.

            You just dont see that on here.

            Hg deserves a huge amount of not only gratitude but recognition for his work. Both in writing and in moderation.

          8. Ruth Barber says:

            HG Tudor has in some part answered the question that led me to this website in the first place, which is can someone be both a narcissist and a psychopath, or is narcissism part of the psychopathic personality. If not, how are the narcissistic traits distinguished from the psychopathic personality?.

  28. Dolores Haze says:

    HG, OMG! Now the ditching of BFF Jessica Mulroney! Please, release this new analysis as soon as you can!

  29. Violetta says:

    Meghan Markle’s speech to her high school involved:

    1) an opening section lifted from Grey’s Anatomy;
    2) claims that she was traumatized by witnessing the LA riots in ’92 (at a time when half-sister Samantha says Thomas Markle had taken Meghan to Palm Springs).

    Acquisition of traits, anyone?

  30. Lumain vv says:

    Cannot wait to read the analysis

  31. Violetta says:

    Best DM reply EVER:

    Original Comment:

    MummyMarkle, Luton, Syria, 17 hours ago
    Meghan is the most gracious women to have walked God’s flat earth. How dare Kate complain about her workload , its her fault Meghan went to the US . When Meghan finally becomes Queen hopefully she can call out Kate.


    SimonC63, North, United Kingdom, 15 hours ago
    That’s it, it turns out my dealer is selling me duff stuff. I want the number of your dealer immediately!

  32. Hargitay Judit says:

    HG Tudor, do you think it is possible that a “milder version” narcissist becomes more and more narcissistic, actually turning into almost mental under monumental pressure? This is my impression of MM when witnessing this globally displayed saga. She seems to become more and more desparate and off to me. Or is it just her true colours showing?

    1. HG Tudor says:

      One is either a narcissist or one is not. A “Milder version” may be someone who is narcissistic, but not a narcissist or a normal and possibly an empath. The appearance of “turning almost mental under monumental pressure” may actually be the erosion of emotional empathy caused by an external stressor and you can understand more about this in Why Am I Behaving Like A Narcissist.

  33. Violetta says:

    Recent DM dialogue:

    Original Comment:

    Blastman, Kane, United States, 10 hours ago

    Meghan is very supportive. She gave up everything to make sure that Harry was happy.


    NativeAmericanIndian, Houston, United States, 10 hours ago

    Bite me.

  34. Violetta says:

    DM headline:

    “Prince Harry made decision to quit Royal Family NOT Meghan Markle and is angry at ‘Megxit’ description because it suggests she dictated the move, new biography will claim”

    By now, she probably has him so brainwashed he believes it.

  35. Tris says:

    Just now watched the birthday post and was wondering if anyone else caught this at the very end?: I’m my opinion, it sounded like Archie was saying “Da da da da” while looking and reaching out to his dad. MM then quickly looked at the camera and inferred that what Archie was really saying was, “Duck Rabbit.” It was as if she couldn’t acknowledge that her son was saying “Dadda.”

    1. Violetta says:

      He was saying “Dada.” It’s one of the first things most babies say, because it just involves tongue and palate, while “Mama” requires control of lips as well.

      On the bright side, someone has been reading to him, because he was turning the pages beautifully. I hope whoever it is uses better books for that age group.

  36. Violetta says:

    More edifying dialogue from DailyMail:

    Original post

    accueilles, Skegness, United Kingdom, 11 hours ago
    Meghan is the real queen, too bad the RF could not accommodate her, but I always had a feeling she was made for better things.


    Sheville, Newcastle upon Tyne, United Kingdom, 11 hours ago
    Are you on drugs?

    Kimbo K, Middle, United Kingdom, 11 hours ago
    Nut job.

    granny b, Yorks, United Kingdom, 11 hours ago
    Too much sea air.

    katie, Birmingham, United Kingdom, 6 hours ago
    You need to go out for a walk. Lockdown is getting to you.

    1. commonsense says:

      This is the UK, not Peronist Argentina. Members of the Royal Family are expected to be sensible, understated and dignified. They use their presence to promote good causes, not vice versa. Do you really think that members of the RF should throw tantrums every time they don’t get their own way, refuse to be part of joint ventures, sue any paper that dares to criticise them, throw in the towel after less than 18 months because they can make more money as celebrities than they would if they actually behaved as a royal should? if Markle is what you consider to be Royal because of her behaviour, there are plenty more d grade celebrities that can do just the same and probably much more..

  37. Violetta says:

    DM headline: “EXCLUSIVE: ‘It’s been anything but a fairy tale.’ Meghan wants Finding Freedom biography released NOW, believing it will set the record straight, reveal her vulnerable side and shatter her image as a rude, demanding diva”

    Daddy, I want the Oompa-Loompas to release the book NOW!

  38. Violetta says:

    A blogger known as Skippy posted the following pictures. They serve both as a counter-argument to MM’s claim that she didn’t know much about the BRF and as a terrifying demonstration of acquisition of traits:


    1. Violetta says:

      Whoops! pic of her young in front of Diana shrine is photoshopped, but the rest speak for themselves.

  39. HG, why do you think Piers Morgan is saying he may have taken it too far in his criticism of MM? Perhaps she’s threatened him with legal action like she did the other publications?


    1. HG Tudor says:

      To control the person who asked him the question in the interview, he doesn’t genuinely think he went too far. Nothing to do with the threat of legal proceedings. He will do it again if his need for control merits it. Morgan is a huge hypocrite

  40. Violetta says:

    Town & Country article: “Meghan Markle Is Poised to Become the Most Prominent Influencer in the World”

    While the backbiting in the comments isn’t a patch on the KTN Facebook’s, it’s pretty vicious. There are, indeed, some bigots posting, but even people who rip into the classless behavior, the insult to the RF in particular and the UK in general, or the hypocrisy are accused of prejudice. One critical reader responded by noting that she herself was mixed race, just like MM.

    (As usual, I directed people to Narcsite, listing a few of the individuals who’ve been analyzed in order to show that NO-ONE gets special treatment around here.)

    1. HG Tudor says:

      Thank you for the balanced referral Violetta.

  41. Em says:

    Calling her son silly – I hated that bit. No positive reinforcement to be seen. And this was the best version of vid?

    1. Em says:

      No eye contact with A and just as importantly he never once looked at his mother – there just seemed to me no connection. I believe she even blamed him jokingly at one point for the story going wrong or something. She had a battle of wills about which book – we’ve all had battles with our kids but not on a vid which was controlled and released. Why publish that? It wasn’t cute. She was trying to control. She’d have been better doing the book reading separately and showing a vid of A enjoying his birthday somehow even with mud pies. The poor child didn’t even have a party outfit on – it all looked so odd.

      1. Violetta says:

        To be fair, there a pics of me at my first birthday wearing an undershirt, a diaper, a pink ribbon holding up what little hair I had managed to grow in a vertical bunch (which my mother later explained she had achieved with soap and water), and a thoroughly clueless expression. I had no idea what was going on, though I have been told I liked the cake

        Fortunately, they have not been released to the general public. That, I think, is the issue.

        1. Mary says:

          My thought is, the baby was not the important part of this video, his was a walk on part so it didn’t matter what he was wearing, all that mattered was how SHE looked on camera. And I also noticed there was no connection, no bond, no eye contact, no arm rubbing, between the two. Perhaps it was the wrong time of day for the baby, but then, why release the video if it isn’t cute and sweet and all love-y? Maybe because M saw absolutely nothing amiss.

  42. Empath007 says:

    I’ve caught up a bunch on this series you are doing…this is great ! watching the public’s reactions to all of this is so interesting. Just yesterday I saw that the author Emily Giffin had called Megan out as “cold and unmaternal – self absorbed” etc, and yet was receiving so much back lash for pointing out things that are true. It amazes me. Once again I just bite my tongue, so many people on each side of the equation… I know what the truth is… because I have your articles pointing at the evidence ! But people don’t want to hear the evidence…

    HG is it difficult as an aware narcissist to NOT be able to tell people IRL what exactly is going on with people that confuse them ?? Do you sit there thinking “you idiot…. you have no idea” or do you find it entertaining to watch the wide range of reactions… I couldn’t imagine knowing the truth as well as you do…and not really being able to discuss it… but then again I’m an empath and always seeking “the truth”

    Also…. anyone else falling in love with prince Harry ?? anyone ? Harry if you see this, I doubt I could be as exciting as Megan for you…. but hit me up when you need a shoulder to cry on when she disengages ! HAHA!

    Look forward to whats to come in this series !

  43. Dolores Haze says:

    HG, while I’m anticipating this #15 analysis, I cannot get over MM’s grey roots in the video. She’s so focused on looking fabulous all the time, and then such a blunder… Do you think it’s possible her narcissism literally blinded her and she didn’t notice the outgrown roots and thought she looked perfect?

    1. HG Tudor says:


      1. Violetta says:

        She wasn’t trying to look down wit da peeps, see my Covid roots and just-like-you clothes?

        Other theories are she’s pregnant and avoiding dye chems. 9 more months of belly-clutching.

        The rest of the world will have the morning sickness.

      2. PortiaRose says:

        Or did Harry get over-excited and post it before MM had time to vet it properly? In which case he has probably been paying a high price ever since.

  44. Violetta says:


    You are really spoiling us with the extra time.

    I shall try not to get too used to it.

  45. Renarde says:


    That is one helluva burn!

    Closely followed by the thoughtful lady who stated, well I’m not an expert but Markles isnt one.


    1. Kim e says:

      I just cant bring myself to read the replies on FB or IG. I become completely overwhelmed and anxious. Maybe it is the Contagion in me…….but I cant do it.
      But I do enjoy when the funny ones are shared here.

      1. Renarde says:

        Kim e

        They are just so shouty in FB!

        1. Kim e says:

          How you doing lady? Your world peaceful for now?

          1. Renarde says:

            Kim e

            I’m ok. I have be named on said FB group. I’m the only that has. It’s on the Empath quiz.

            How flattering!

          2. Kim e says:

            There will be a lane named after you for sure😀😀😀😀🎉🎉

          3. Renarde says:

            Kim e

            It’s very strange when I’ve had that happen before. Very. I got a but if a shock today.

            Oh God, I could have a lane but I bet you they use my old Fet nickname which I wont repeat.

            If I get one, we will have to have a ceremonial opening! 💛🎩🦊

      2. Renarde says:

        Kim e

        Further to previous, I’ve just spent a happy hour scrolling through the comments. Indeed I was correct, this place is an Elsian peace compared to over there.

        The squabbling! The fuck offs! The insane!

        1. Kim e says:

          Sounds like narc Disney Land. Glad I am not venturing in.

          1. Renarde says:

            It is, they’re on Fantasy Island, most of them!

            The plane! The plane!

            I’ve already observed a few little Nic-Nacs running about!

    2. Bibi says:

      Hahahaha @ that comment.

      There is another frequent FB commenter who says weird shit to HG like, ‘Thank GOD she got away from you and I hope your kind sees the fire in hell that you deserve [run on sentence run on sentence, misspelling, misspelling,] May you never live to see the light of day!!!! [more cliches] and then she linked to some book that has been shown to be a conspiracy theory.

      1. Renarde says:


        Intresting on conspiracy theory book!

      2. Em says:

        Just had a look on fb. 😱

    3. Violetta says:

      I know. Makes me feel my doctoral program wasn’t really, y’know, rigorous.

      1. Renarde says:


        I agreed. I now feel qualified to say anything!

        1. Renarde says:



  46. Lorelei says:

    Why hasn’t Julie weighed in? She has HG’s support on the matter.

    1. HG Tudor says:

      No she does not have my support. Why are you persisting in bringing in up a matter again and again? Nobody has mentioned this matter recently. You have been told, like everyone else involved in that notorious threat that it is at an end. It is unhelpful and unnecessary.

      1. Bibi says:

        I must have missed something.

        1. HG Tudor says:

          It is concluded.

          1. Thought this meant you were done with the article for a second…darn. looking forward to reading it!

          2. Bibi says:

            Fair enough.

        2. Me too…I was away from the blog in the Fall 🤷‍♀️

        3. Em says:

          Me too

      2. Love says:

        What notorious threat??? What happened?

        1. HG Tudor says:

          Thread, not threat. The matter is concluded.

      3. Lorelei says:

        I disagree.

        1. HG Tudor says:

          You are wrong. The matter is concluded.

    2. Violetta says:

      Her opinion doesn’t matter, Lorelei. She started in on me at one point for making snarky remarks about Wuhan, so I just got even more snarky to her, and HG has so far never objected.

      I think he doesn’t want us to rely on him for rescue. We need to be able to slug it out ourselves–metaphorically speaking (unless somebody really wants to bang u out blud wit da West Staines Massiv).

  47. CandaceMarie says:

    Can’t wait!

  48. lisk says:

    I would love this as a quiz-first-buy-for-answers-later piece.

    I wonder how well many of us might already know (or can intuit) MM’s sheNARCigans?

    1. Renarde says:

      Probably quite a few of us now I’d imagine lisk.

      Prediction: MM is working with Oprah on an interview.

  49. Em says:

    Can’t wait!

    1. HG Tudor says:

      Going to have to!

      1. Em says:

        😂 excited.

        1. Violetta says:

          When reader suspects that except when Megs trots Harry out for some kind of PR, she’s making him sleep under the stairs like Harry Potter.

          1. HG Tudor says:

            If you want further entertainment have a look on the KTN Facebook page for this article and read the comments

          2. Dolores Haze says:

            OMG, HG! I just read those FB comments… Well, in addition to your expert arguments it proves yet again the incredible allure of narcissists, the way they charm and deceive so many people. Even my empathic husband be like, “well, Meghan is really great in the way she helps Harry finally grow up and find his own adult path in life; she deserves gratitude…” and I’m like, “what the f are you talking about after everything I’ve taught you about narcissism???”

          3. HG Tudor says:

            Indeed it does and it demonstrates how narcissists can be fooled by narcissists judging by the behaviour of a couple of commenters, the rest just don’t like somebody they like being called a narcissist and rather than look at the evidence and analysis they get upset. The ones who are adamant and insulting despite evidence to the contrary are entertaining and show their true colours.

          4. MB says:

            There are much worse things somebody you’re a fan of could be called other than “narcissist”. Not exactly fighting words. I don’t know what’s gotten everybody so riled up!

          5. HG Tudor says:

            Well for some, MB, it amounts to a threat to their control but they do not realise it.

          6. Violetta says:

            I’d have to join Facebook to see comments, wouldn’t I?

          7. Kim e says:

            Violetta…you do not have to join FB to see KTN posts

          8. Violetta says:

            Kim E:

            How do I do this, then? I had found the KTN Facebook page, but when I clicked on comments for that article, I kept getting a Log in or Register prompt.

          9. Kim e says:

            OK. I am officially a moron. I tested it out before I answered you. But when I answered I was thinking Instagram where you would have to follow
            SO….. yes. You would have to join FB. Join it. Look at KRN and then delete your account
            My apologizes.

          10. Violetta says:

            Kim E:

            Never mind, can see comments on laptop but not phone.

            At least 80% argumentum ad hominem with a dollop of Appeal to False Authority and Burden of Proof.

            No one, so far, has chosen to “Write a detailed thesis attacking HG Tudor´s work.” I’d very much like to see such a project, containing direct quotes from HG as well as paraphrases, properly cited, so we can check the original wording ourselves, and of course involving counter-arguments and rebuttals as well as alternate views from accepted sources.

            Btw, the fact that HG has chosen to take a partly literary approach with the monologues and dialogues instead of a clinical one is not unheard of. Theodore Rubin did so in Jordi and Lisa and David; RD Laing did so in Knots. Laing got particular flack for saying in other works that many “maladjusted” individuals were actually too sane to “adjust” to a sick society.

          11. Empath007 says:

            In regards to reactions… I feel like the two main things that get people enraged about hearing the truth about Megan have to do with Gender and Race… there are a group of people who believe she is being outed for these two things, not understanding that narcissism does not have anything to do with gender and race.

          12. Witch says:

            In some cases she is being dragged because she’s half black. Not by HG specifically but by some people who are against her for that reason which means that people who have legitimate criticises also face the backlash.
            There was a comment here HG published where someone called her the “n-word” (didn’t think it should have been allowed through but hey.) I also saw another comment else where saying “she’s ugly and she’s black!”
            This is part of why people are being defensive.

          13. HG Tudor says:

            Indeed there are moronic racist comments directed at her and one should not hide from shining a light on such behaviour.
            Being defensive with regard to racist comments make sense. Labelling an analysis based on narcissism as racist smacks of idiocy.

          14. Witch says:

            HG personally I think it’s understandable why people are suspicious and defensive over the analysis at first glance due to the circumstances I described. Of course to go on and on being accusatory after looking through your blog or receiving an explaination from you is dim.

          15. HG Tudor says:

            The problem is Witch, many of them make the accusation without reading it first (dim) and if they make the accusation after reading it, they deserve to be taken out back and shot.

          16. Violetta says:

            How could anybody accuse you if being a bigot, HG? You hate everybody.

          17. HG Tudor says:

            I have always maintained that I have no prejudices, I hate everybody equally.

          18. Witch says:

            that punishment makes sense for you as someone who doesn’t think the same way as I do.
            I think with emotion and I did so much more inappropriately before I found this blog. There are plenty of times I should have been “taken out back and shot” by your perspective, so I’m trying not to get on my high horse now with people who have just discovered your blog and are mainly thinking with emotion.

          19. HG Tudor says:

            The individuals I am referring to are not long-suffering empaths clouded by ET, I know that when it appears. The individuals I am referring to are entirely different and hence the remedy proposed is the only appropriate one.

          20. Witch says:

            Understood HG

        2. Violetta says:

          Seen how Harry looks in the cancelled Invictus Games message?

          Where’s Judas to sing:

          My God, I saw him
          He looked three-quarters dead
          And he was so bad
          I had to turn my head

          Except even Judas was capable of remorse.

          1. Em says:

            Yes Violetta! There is some thing wrong with him! H. Lots of blinking – reading his speech – looks ill – change of appearance – looks like he doesn’t give two hoots about the people he’s meant to be addressing. None of it adds up. He was one of the most relatable RF members now he’s completely detached. All the stuff he said before he left about wanting privacy, wanting to protect his family, I could have accepted if he really had wanted to slink off into anonymity – he’s just walked into the most high profile celeb, pap city in the world and they are courting attention. He wants to drop his title at the same time as using it to open doors. So many mixed messages. It’s like he lied about his mother about his reasons for leaving uk, he’s given us all two fingers and lording it over us.
            I guess this is Stockholm syndrome manifesting. It’s so ugly and sad. She’s aligned herself with Diana and the press hunting and made herself out to be just like Diana. Even got him to talk on tv about his mental health – made him very vulnerable.

  50. Renarde says:

    Yay! Excellent.

    Project Angel Food? Sounds like shes gong to lob some coloured fruit sponges at the poor. Which I’m sure they’ll appreciate…

    Hadmt appreciated shed lost the case though.

    1. Violetta says:

      Fruit sponge (you do mean the pudden, don’t you? The Italian version, zuppe ingeles, is amaze-balls) is all very well, but where would she write the motivational messages?

      1. Renarde says:


        Ha ha! I meant angel food cake but I screwed it up. It’s an egg white only sponge in three layers, pink, white and yellow with icing.

        The writing of messages would be vexatious though. I cant help thinking of ‘let them eat cake’. Perhaps she could spell it out. In cake.

        I wouldnt let Halls do this though. For reasons.

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